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ddubois 10-16-2007 09:09 AM

I play QQ tricky and it puts me in a tough spot
 
Villain is TAG, 20/17 over about 60 datamined hands. I smooth-called preflop, because I figure if I re-raise UTG+1, it's such a super strong move, that I only get action from QQ+/AK, whereas this way, I might win a big pot versus AT/AJ/JJ/TT, etc, on the right flops. At least, that's the idea.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $426
BB: $529
UTG: $400
Hero (MP): $400
CO: $1,048.25
BTN: $108.05

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $16, 4 folds

Flop: ($38) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $28</font>, Hero calls $28

Turn: ($94) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $70</font>, Hero calls $70

River: ($234) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $286 and is All-In</font>, Hero ???

Jamougha 10-16-2007 09:10 AM

Re: I play QQ tricky and it puts me in a tough spot
 
Um, wasn't this the idea of smooth calling?

82Steve 10-16-2007 09:13 AM

Re: I play QQ tricky and it puts me in a tough spot
 
read your topic and think about it.

just reraise PF and play from there.

LucidDream 10-16-2007 09:15 AM

Re: I play QQ tricky and it puts me in a tough spot
 
not sure whats so tough about this spot...u pretty much have to call given what u are repping.

Hercules 10-16-2007 09:19 AM

Re: I play QQ tricky and it puts me in a tough spot
 
i think u have to call, because ur hand looks a lot like a non believing TJ,KJ typ of hand...
Its sort of close, cuz i cant think about any hand besides maaaaybe AJ, which he would be doing this for value with AND which u beat.
Think its somewhat close, but iŽd call.

sasha 10-16-2007 09:23 AM

Re: I play QQ tricky and it puts me in a tough spot
 
I would call this, this a perfect spot for him to 3 barrel, scince you did not raise him on turn with 2 flush draws+ straight draws, and a blank hitting river.
He knows you have 1 pair hand, or a draw

dirtytricks 10-16-2007 09:27 AM

Re: I play QQ tricky and it puts me in a tough spot
 
Jeezz.. I think you should have raised the flop or the turn, then he might stack off with AJ. This is a bad board for him fire 3barrels, even 2 so I would fold this.

Some history or read could make it a call though. Overbet on river is a big hand very often in my experience. You are not repping much though so thats why this could be a bluff but readless no way Im calling this.

mrkilla 10-16-2007 09:29 AM

Re: I play QQ tricky and it puts me in a tough spot
 
so you smooth pre, flop and turn and now want to fold the river?

why?

http://my.voyager.net/~gwta/images/b...ing%20plan.jpg

PS I also like a turn raise , but the way play call

ddubois 10-16-2007 09:31 AM

Re: I play QQ tricky and it puts me in a tough spot
 
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why?

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Overbet = nuts.

LucidDream 10-16-2007 09:39 AM

Re: I play QQ tricky and it puts me in a tough spot
 
LOLOLOL


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