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I don't care if a retard is gay, as long as he isn't sitting next to me on a plane.

Re: Question from mod forum: homosexuality + retardation
 

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I'm pretty sure I've heard there are gay penguins, so there's that.

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That's hot.

Re: Question from mod forum: homosexuality + retardation
 

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I actually think homosexuality is more a function of one's environment growing up.

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With all due respect, I believe this is [censored]. Ask Dick Cheney's daughter. I doubt she will tell you she grew up in a gay environment.

Or is there some other "environment" you're talking about.

Re: Question from mod forum: homosexuality + retardation
 

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I actually think homosexuality is more a function of one's environment growing up.

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With all due respect, I believe this is [censored]. Ask Dick Cheney's daughter. I doubt she will tell you she grew up in a gay environment.


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If I was Dick Cheney's daughter, I'd probably be turned off of men, too.

Re: Question from mod forum: homosexuality + retardation
 

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A really good friend of mine worked in adult group homes for years.

He's told me that he walks in on guys doing each other all the time. Since they are adults and consenting, all he can do is close the door and try to forget he ever saw it.

The impression I got from him is that it's just a couple guys getting off. They don't really have the capacity for love/romance since they have the mind of a child. They would bang anything that you let them, for the most part anyway.

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Gay for the stay in adult group homes? Who knew.

Re: Question from mod forum: homosexuality + retardation
 

Growing up in Greece? Or in jail?

I think we've come to the point where we're more ready to make big authoritative-sounding pronouncements on the "causes" than to really have a thorough understanding of what we're talking about. And then to simply just want to start fights.

The subject is way too fraught with religious and political agendas as compared to any real understanding or even desire to understand, from either side of the nature or nurture arguments.

And there's not nearly so much commonly said about why it may be both nature and nurture, something fluid and changeable rather than absolute and permanent, etc.

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what does your first statement have to do w/ censored's question? why does someone have to "contextualize their enviromenment" in order for it to impact them?

i have worked w/ people mental retardation and there is a definite sexual drive. some hetero, some homosexual.

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bd - re: "whether or not people who actually mentally retarded express things like homosexuality"

I read this to mean that [censored] was implying that a predisposition to homosexuality might be genetic, and that he was wondering if a mentally retarded person would be able to act on that.

Its entirely possible that I am missing the point. But I was trying to say that I do not believe that homosexuality is solely genetic, or something one is "born with", but instead may also be a result of behavioral factors.

Re: Dick Cheney's daughter, its entirely possible that she "rebelled" against the staunch Republican/conservative values of her father in order to gain attention. Maybe after doing so, she realized she could enjoy a perfectly fulfilling lifestyle sans [censored].

Which is the right answer? Could be both, could be neither...I don't think anybody knows for sure.

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I'm pretty sure I've heard there are gay penguins, so there's that.

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I've heard the same thing about dolphins, chimpanzees, and dogs. Don't know if any of these species can be retarded, but apparently they can be gay.

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what does your first statement have to do w/ censored's question? why does someone have to "contextualize their enviromenment" in order for it to impact them?

i have worked w/ people mental retardation and there is a definite sexual drive. some hetero, some homosexual.

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bd - re: "whether or not people who actually mentally retarded express things like homosexuality"

I read this to mean that [censored] was implying that a predisposition to homosexuality might be genetic, and that he was wondering if a mentally retarded person would be able to act on that.

Its entirely possible that I am missing the point. But I was trying to say that I do not believe that homosexuality is solely genetic, or something one is "born with", but instead may also be a result of behavioral factors.

Re: Dick Cheney's daughter, its entirely possible that she "rebelled" against the staunch Republican/conservative values of her father in order to gain attention. Maybe after doing so, she realized she could enjoy a perfectly fulfilling lifestyle sans [censored].

Which is the right answer? Could be both, could be neither...I don't think anybody knows for sure.

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Clearly you're retarded; are you gay? If so, [censored] 's question would be easily answered.

Thinking that homosexuality is not biological is just stupid. Study after study after study indicates that it is. The simple fact that people don't choose to be a way that makes them get the [censored] kicked out of them by strangers indicates that it is. The fact that guilt over homosexuality is a leading cause of suicide indicates that it is. How is this even an issue anymore? Come on.

As many posts in this thread indicate, from people who've worked with/had friends who worked with the retarded, yes, there are gay retards.

A perfect example:

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Ted Haggard

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Re: Question from mod forum: homosexuality + retardation
 

While I've previously pondered the existence of retard pornos, now I'll hafta also consider the existence of gay retard porn. I think I'll make all those I speak with tonight consider it also.

I'm going to be the King of Conversation tonight.