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kaah 10-08-2007 04:47 PM

nl400 mähh riverraise
 
no reads
first ore second orbit, vill was 31/15 at those 10hands i think.
It feelt like he had a hand that would hate a raise.

This situation dosent show up often, how does this look?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $539.40
CO: $251.90
LE HERO: $471.20
SB: $583.60
BB: $284.80

Pre-flop: (5 players) LE HERO is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">LE HERO raises to $14</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($30, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">LE HERO bets $20</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($70, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $15</font>, LE HERO calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($100, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">LE HERO raises to $85</font>

Praetor 10-08-2007 04:59 PM

Re: nl400 mähh riverraise
 
hate

Mossberg 10-08-2007 05:07 PM

Re: nl400 mähh riverraise
 
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hate

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me too.

he's either trying to induce a raise (or light call), or he's got something marginal that will usually end up calling your raise knowing that he may have induced a bluff.

mustmuck 10-08-2007 05:13 PM

Re: nl400 mähh riverraise
 
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he's either trying to induce a raise (or light call), or he's got something marginal that will usually end up calling your raise knowing that he may have induced a bluff.

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I generally think that the described villain is a fish and isn't going to be thinking anything along those lines at all. This isn't to say he won't call. I think guys that do this usually do have a fairly weak hand, but I don't know if they're willing to fold it. I'm interested in the results.

kaah 10-10-2007 07:09 AM

Re: nl400 mähh riverraise
 
mustmuck he snappcalled with one of those hands I thought he had.. A8off. After a few orbits I found out he was a "donk". wouldn't have done this play if I had his 40/8 stats in front of me

fringsrache 10-10-2007 07:43 AM

Re: nl400 mähh riverraise
 
kaah. i really dont understand why u dont like that chipmunk but thats a different story.

i try stuff like this a lot and its usually just spew. its not enough to know that villain is weak to make this play. u must also know if he lay a hand down. U must always keep in mind that a lot of these bad players are often trying hard to make a "great" play. they watch poker on TV and wanna make "superstars-calls/laydowns" too.

btw ur line is also not very consistent. I doubt villain recognizes that but he might "have a feeling"!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

augie_ 10-10-2007 08:08 AM

Re: nl400 mähh riverraise
 
you have to be way more convincing, at least $140 or something. i like the play, though. villain is obviously weak.

kaah 10-10-2007 09:28 AM

Re: nl400 mähh riverraise
 
I almost never do stuff like this. Just felt he was weak and I decided to steal sins there was a flush and str8 out there.
And I love the chipmunk!

augie_ the pot was 85+15 his bet I thought my raise would do the trick and I don't want to risk to much. Buuuut got snappcalled [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Hattifnatt 10-10-2007 09:30 AM

Re: nl400 mähh riverraise
 
dont do this. and if you must, raise more.

Roy Gonzo 10-10-2007 09:38 AM

Re: nl400 mähh riverraise
 
Do not want!

Villain bets 15$ on turn and river?

You expect him to fold on a rag river? Given the line most donks AND most solid players will call you here with 98&lt;

If you want to win this pot pls raise the turn.


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