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wazz 11-08-2007 09:32 AM

$2/2 turn play - all 3 actions justifiable, double fd + overpair
 
MP1 is capable of squeezing with a wide range, so I figure I can sometimes trap dead money from SB, push, and be in ok -> good shape if called. Stats on SB are 65/10/1.4 over a few hundred hands, and my notes on him say that he is a donk who pays through the nose to draw, is passive without a made hand OOP, and is capable of checkraising the nuts on the river. His turn bet looks like the nuts to me but folding is a fairly big mistake if he's ever not full. If I make either flush I'm planning on checking behind/folding to a big bet.

Poker Room skin
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$2
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
hero: $255.30
UTG+1: $178
MP1: $194.20
CO: $398.05
Button: $119.50
SB: $360.40
BB: $192

Pre-flop: (7 players) hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $8</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($26, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $22</font>, hero calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($70, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $19</font>, hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($108, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $108</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $216</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero calls all-in $98.3</font>.
Uncalled bets: $9.7 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $520.6

CrushinFelt 11-08-2007 09:55 AM

Re: $2/2 turn play - all 3 actions justifiable, double fd + overpair
 
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is passive without a made hand OOP,

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His turn bet looks like the nuts to me but folding is a fairly big mistake if he's ever not full.

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How could he ever really not be full here? 6 2?

Given your read this hand doesn't make any sense.

moon_ake 11-08-2007 10:19 AM

Re: $2/2 turn play - all 3 actions justifiable, double fd + overpair
 
I think you were just lucky on this hand...

by the way, is raising the flop a mistake given villain's profile? just a question

wazz 11-08-2007 10:21 AM

Re: $2/2 turn play - all 3 actions justifiable, double fd + overpair
 
You want me to edit out the river play? People occasionally get out of character and make plays you don't expect them to. Would you really fold the turn to such a small bet?

CrushinFelt 11-08-2007 10:29 AM

Re: $2/2 turn play - all 3 actions justifiable, double fd + overpair
 
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You want me to edit out the river play? People occasionally get out of character and make plays you don't expect them to. Would you really fold the turn to such a small bet?

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I'd probably still sleep ok. His bet screams "i can't just check then it's more obvious I have the nuts"

jbird 11-08-2007 10:42 AM

Re: $2/2 turn play - all 3 actions justifiable, double fd + overpair
 
you have such massive implied odds if you hit your K and he is full (assuming he doesn't have quads) that you are really calling $19 to win his stack in this case, and if he's not full and you make a flush he's probably checking flop in which case you are calling $19 to win $90 -- I think you played it fine.

wazz 11-08-2007 12:57 PM

Re: $2/2 turn play - all 3 actions justifiable, double fd + overpair
 
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I think you were just lucky on this hand...

by the way, is raising the flop a mistake given villain's profile? just a question

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Obv I was lucky.

Raising the flop is not a mistake, with my runner runners I'm like 55% against naked top two.

blopp 11-10-2007 05:39 AM

Re: $2/2 turn play - all 3 actions justifiable, double fd + overpair
 
I play it same.

sc000t 11-10-2007 11:42 AM

Re: $2/2 turn play - all 3 actions justifiable, double fd + overpair
 
I think you played this fine. I couldn't fold that turn to a $19 bet either.

RoundTower 11-10-2007 04:53 PM

Re: $2/2 turn play - all 3 actions justifiable, double fd + overpair
 
looks standard


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