Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 

Reading lots of Pokey's posts i've tried to apply alot of the things he's said, this situation i thought was a rather good spot to try one of them.

He said something along the lines of betting the river in this spot, because often your opponant shows down a better nothing

<font color="blue">Villian is 21 / 11 / 1.7 (600), his fold to cbet is 60%</font>

How's this, can i profitably bet here and enduce a fold enough of the time? What is the math behind it?


Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $39.10
Hero (CO): $32.05
BTN: $24.65
SB: $23.65
BB: $36.75
UTG: $25.80

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.25</font>, BB calls $3.25

River: ($11.60) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.5</font>??

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 

What makes you think he has nothing and not an ace? This line is pretty bad.

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 

Does he ever have missed spades? Or anything that'll fold to a river bet

EDIT: SPADES!!!

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 

Ever. But I dont thik ever enough. I hate you turn bet too. This is not what pokey says [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 

I think this board is rather bad and he won't often show down a better nothing, it will more often then not be a something.

You got to put him on a range, one that includes the flushdraw but it's hard to tell how much of his range has the flushdraw included.

His stats are weak/tight so he would probably play his flushdraw like this but he's also playing Ax like this, maybe even JT type of hands (and the river doesnt change anything really)

I think on this board your line is rather spewy

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 

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Does he ever have missed clubs? Or anything that'll fold to a river bet

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he missed alot of clubs, like 3 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 

betting 6.5 it needs to work ~1/3 of the time. Betting 3$ still folds the nothing, but saves you when you are behind. The advantage of 6.5$ is increasing the chance to fold a pair of jacks/smaller pp, but I doubt he has that.

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 

I think the river A is a very bad card for you.. since it makes it MUCH easier for him to call u with a J here. I would like this better if the river were a K or Q

Oops didn't see turn was a K.. hmmm.. I don't mind it as much then actually.

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 

Im not sure what post by Pokey your talking about but I could imagine it's more in the lines of this hand.

Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $14.41
BTN: $25
SB: $41.45
Hero (BB): $33.26

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.60) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($0.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($0.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.30</font>, UTG folds

Results: $0.60 Pot
Hero mucked 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and WON $0.87 (+$0.62 NET)

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 

No, its not like that at all, infact you probably had the best hand there...