Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
 

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(though I probably bet and curse when he shoves).


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I probably do the same actually. I thought the OP was in position so that's why I said check but I do like firing here OOP.

Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
 

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If you bet $12 on the flop and he shoves you need 27.77% equity to call. So he needs AQ or worse 1.1% of the time to b/c. Adding in if he'll call KQo then it's an easy call because KQo felts this flop.

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I understand we'll have pot odds, but why do we want to commit as a big dog? FE doesn't justify it. We're betting $37 to win $15 and he's shoving all but a few hands in his range, (AQ, 99, possibly AA but he prob four-bets all-in pre). Btw, I think it's nonstandard to put KQ offsuit in an unknown's range after they call a reraise.

Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
 

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Gimme a break, Chargers. Only a donk felts AQ here.

Board: Jc Tc Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.666% 23.58% 03.09% 35715 4676.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 73.334% 70.25% 03.09% 106403 4676.00 { AA, QQ-TT, AKs, AcQc, KQs, AKo }


This range is pretty loose IMO. You played the hand fine OP.

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lol its nl50 players aren't exactly good

that range is tight as hell

also if that is his felt range, you are likely +EV bet/calling as he's folding the flop a bunch then and you breakeven on the shove call

Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
 

I get your math, but the question is how much FE do i have here? I'm getting $43 in as a 3-1 dog, but is this a bet that i want to take here? I can just check/fold and avoid this bet entirely. I think it depends on how likely i feel he's in there with garbage. If i think there's a good chance he's in with 88 or AJ or some crap, then i bet/call.

But against an unknown, since it's close, I don't think a CF is horrible is it?

Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
 

Bet $10 and fold to a raise. If villain calls, then c/f a non-Ace turn (unless it's some kind of min-bet).

Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
 

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Bet $10 and fold to a raise. If villain calls, then c/f a non-Ace turn (unless it's some kind of min-bet).

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yuck

Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
 

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I get your math, but the question is how much FE do i have here? I'm getting $43 in as a 3-1 dog, but is this a bet that i want to take here? I can just check/fold and avoid this bet entirely. I think it depends on how likely i feel he's in there with garbage. If i think there's a good chance he's in with 88 or AJ or some crap, then i bet/call.



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$36 total would be going in postflop

only $24 or so as a 3/1 dog(which is probably the low end) where you will get 3/1 on a call so its fine

the first $12 has different EV, and likely at these stakes is immediately +EV, if you get folds >45% of the time its +EV in a vaccuum(any2cards actually)

nl50 players play bad, and typically its by calling too much, so a lot of small pairs, suited connector hands can call RRs and just give up, or make a bad call with a 1pair hand where you have a lot of ev

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$36 total would be going in postflop

only $24 or so as a 3/1 dog(which is probably the low end) where you will get 3/1 on a call so its fine

the first $12 has different EV, and likely at these stakes is immediately +EV, if you get folds >45% of the time its +EV in a vaccuum(any2cards actually)

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Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
 

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Gimme a break, Chargers. Only a donk felts AQ here.

Board: Jc Tc Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.666% 23.58% 03.09% 35715 4676.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 73.334% 70.25% 03.09% 106403 4676.00 { AA, QQ-TT, AKs, AcQc, KQs, AKo }


This range is pretty loose IMO. You played the hand fine OP.

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A fairly competent Reg felted AQ against me today on this exact board. He's usually competent anyway.

Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
 

Readless I'd say check/folding is okay here, villain's range has you clobbered here.