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recallme 11-20-2007 05:33 PM

Trips facing river shove
 
Villain is 30/16/1.2/1.6/2.2 over 700. No history between us, i was quite passive yet. Only hand worth mentioning at this table, where i was involved yet was:

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $6252.34
CO: $2989
Button: $1253
Hero: $2554
BB: $1425.66

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $70</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $1425.66</font>,

I called, which is standard? Villain showed AA then




Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3044.87
Hero: $2048
CO: $1750.32
Button: $5127.68
SB: $3889.66
BB: $1351

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $70</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($280, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $210</font>, CO folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($700, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $550</font>, SB calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1800, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1220</font>

The flopped draw missed, but i am not sure if he can have a FH here.

ArturiusX 11-20-2007 05:56 PM

Re: Trips facing river shove
 
Its been a while since I've played 10/20, but the first hand is not standard.

In the second hand, it could be a block with KQ/KJ I guess, I'd have a hard time folding without any reads.

thejerkface 11-20-2007 05:59 PM

Re: Trips facing river shove
 
Hand 1 is a super easy fold.
Hand 2, I call river.

recallme 11-20-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Trips facing river shove
 
Is first really a muck?

RiverHebrew2 11-20-2007 06:51 PM

Re: Trips facing river shove
 
I call here all day. This could be a bluff certainly, or even worse K that didn't wann alose value by c/rai on turn vs a bluff or nething. If he backdoored spades, so be it. I can't expect him to have a FH here because you see tha the plays very strong hands very strong (as with massive overshove preflop with the AA).

ArturiusX 11-20-2007 06:53 PM

Re: Trips facing river shove
 
[ QUOTE ]
Is first really a muck?

[/ QUOTE ]

What kind of equity do you think you have?

recallme 11-20-2007 06:53 PM

Re: Trips facing river shove
 
He`s a obviously not very decent with this kind of stack

JFsports 11-20-2007 07:08 PM

Re: Trips facing river shove
 
[ QUOTE ]
In the second hand, it could be a block with KQ/KJ I guess, I'd have a hard time folding without any reads.

[/ QUOTE ]

It can't be a blocker cos it's a shove...but it definitely could be a value bet from a worse hand, or some random bluff. The shove in the first hand + his stack size in same means he's probably not very good.

I would happily call here, I think we're well ahead of his range.

homeboy604 11-20-2007 09:03 PM

Re: Trips facing river shove
 
hand 1) very far from standard. why would you risk 150bb's when you only have 70 invested. doesnt make any sense.

2) pretty easy call.

jj12 11-20-2007 09:07 PM

Re: Trips facing river shove
 
2 is instacall. 1 I would fold unless he has been pushing semi regularly


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