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Fat Nicky 11-20-2007 02:45 PM

200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot
 
Villain is 52/20/3. Flop AF is 2.5. Raised flop c-bets 25%. showdown stats are 30/43.

no history, but he's def very aggro, saw him limp/rr QJ earlier this session.

UTG: $292.60
BTN: $228
Hero (SB): $201
BB: $194

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $17

Flop: ($50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $64</font>, Hero ????

fold? call? shove?

illwill514 11-20-2007 02:51 PM

Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot
 
gross spot i think i find a fold though and if he keeps doing that minraise [censored] i d start shoving this on him

mendacity 11-20-2007 03:17 PM

Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot
 
Calling the flop min-raise to fold unimproved on the turn is spewing. Why are you three-betting preflop? I understand it's for value, it makes your hand difficult to play oop.

shpanko 11-20-2007 03:17 PM

Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot
 
folding and shoving are both fine imo

Fat Nicky 11-20-2007 03:26 PM

Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot
 
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Calling the flop min-raise to fold unimproved on the turn is spewing. Why are you three-betting preflop? I understand it's for value, it makes your hand difficult to play oop.

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3-betting pre-flop w/ TT is 100% standard against a maniac in a 4-handed game.

startrak 11-20-2007 03:39 PM

Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot
 
id want some more "3bet pot info" on him before i do anything else than call and re-eval on turn.

Unknown Soldier 11-20-2007 03:47 PM

Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot
 
i'd call and crai if he's that bluff happy. If he isn't that bluff happy but overvalues hands then shove. I doubt I'm folding.

JonnyCosMo 11-20-2007 04:42 PM

Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot
 
Fold or shove, although 90% of the people here like to flat call and fold to the turn bet, which is an excellent line... if you like bleeding money.

BigMac1082 11-20-2007 04:59 PM

Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot
 
shove but expect to see QK type hands pretty much everytime when called. fwiw I think you have the best hand here most of the time.

HoldEmNewby 11-20-2007 05:18 PM

Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot
 
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i'd call and crai if he's that bluff happy. If he isn't that bluff happy but overvalues hands then shove. I doubt I'm folding.

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are there any turn cards you aren't crai?


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