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dhaimon 11-26-2007 02:29 PM

Scared set in the BB vs late pos raiser.
 
first level of a 109 on stars. fourth hand.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t3000)
UTG+1 (t3000)
MP1 (t2920)
MP2 (t2800)
MP3 (t2940)
CO (t2970)
Button (t3000)
SB (t3370)
Hero (t3000)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises to t60</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t60, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t190) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets t120</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t120

Turn: (t430) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

River: (t430) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t400</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises to t800</font>, Hero calls t400


This is approx my first tournament with a buy-in over $100, as I'm mainly a limit cash player. However it is NOT scared money as $100 is peanuts at my regular limits. It is a new enviromnent and I have no idea what the minraise at the river means.

I suspect that my plays on all streets are questionable / bad.

ZBTHorton 11-26-2007 02:33 PM

Re: Scared set in the BB vs late pos raiser.
 
Why didn't you raise the flop?

kutuz_off 11-26-2007 02:36 PM

Re: Scared set in the BB vs late pos raiser.
 
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Why didn't you lead the flop?

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JammyDodga 11-26-2007 02:39 PM

Re: Scared set in the BB vs late pos raiser.
 
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Why didn't you re-raise pre-flop?

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dhaimon 11-26-2007 02:40 PM

Re: Scared set in the BB vs late pos raiser.
 
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Why didn't you lead the flop?

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Well I figured I was way ahead, but yeah I see that leading the flop is a good play, because he's not going anywhere with a good ace. Is calling the river fine or should i pump it?

ZBTHorton 11-26-2007 03:07 PM

Re: Scared set in the BB vs late pos raiser.
 
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Why didn't you lead the flop?

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I don't mind check-raising the flop since the ace is out there. But leading is also fine.

fsoyars 11-26-2007 03:15 PM

Re: Scared set in the BB vs late pos raiser.
 
This is far from a dry board - lead flop or c/r.

Hattifnatt 11-26-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Scared set in the BB vs late pos raiser.
 
c/r &gt; lead &gt;&gt; c/c

mwalsh2020 11-26-2007 05:28 PM

Re: Scared set in the BB vs late pos raiser.
 
once you c-c the flop (mistake) you should bet 2/3 pot on the turn so as to not give a free spade... also he may get somewhat frisky with axks or axqs

Cornell Fiji 11-26-2007 05:55 PM

Re: Scared set in the BB vs late pos raiser.
 
Leading the flop is superior to a check-raise. You are playing to stack someone, not to get one bet when nobody hit this board.

I lead the flop for 190, nobody is ever folding an ace or spades and early in a tournament there are many people who think that AQ=nuts that need to be protected on a drawy board.

Pot every street until you face resistance (even if a spade falls on the turn). If you are raised you should reevaluate and figure out if check-raising the next street or if 3betting is the best way to get the money in.

As played definitely call the river. The minraise looks like a flush or a bluff, I just don't see AK as a big enough part of his minraise-call range.


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