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tarheeljks 06-27-2007 05:04 PM

hypothetical QQ scenario
 
i've been thinking about spots where it may not be good to cbet. what do you all think of this scenario:

Hero is BB, 100bb stacks.

UTG calls, UTG+1 raises to 5BB, 3 folds, Hero reraises to 12BB, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: AKx rainbow

Hero:

EddieRooo 06-27-2007 05:24 PM

Re: hypothetical QQ scenario
 
Raise more preflop OOP. Cbet flop OOP, unless you don't mind check folding.

orange 06-27-2007 05:52 PM

Re: hypothetical QQ scenario
 
cf or bf are both fine. your more just betting to control the hand and not let him bluff 88 and the like (ie. just win the pot now).

bubaloo 06-27-2007 06:44 PM

Re: hypothetical QQ scenario
 
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Raise more preflop OOP. Cbet flop OOP, unless you don't mind check folding.

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gir 06-27-2007 06:46 PM

Re: hypothetical QQ scenario
 
Bet/fold. Take control of this pot. You don't want to be weak tight!

BOOM! ONE THOUSAND.

wrkingtobegreat 06-27-2007 06:52 PM

Re: hypothetical QQ scenario
 
I just had a revelation...the only time villain can really respond to a good-sized flop bet here and feel good is with kk aa ak (maybe aq if he's feeling lucky). Most of the time aa kk are out for villain because he'd usually reraise preflop, and even if he has AK he has to be worried about us having AA KK. This is a phenomenal cont-bet scenario, bet the pot every time.

wrkingtobegreat 06-27-2007 06:54 PM

Re: hypothetical QQ scenario
 
checking this flop is definitely NOT fine.

Kowalski 06-27-2007 06:54 PM

Re: hypothetical QQ scenario
 
I usually BF these spots.

Congrats gir.

B-P-L 06-27-2007 06:55 PM

Re: hypothetical QQ scenario
 
also, this is a spot where if you check almost any player is going to bet no matter what they have so you really have to CB and just try to take it down.

wrkingtobegreat 06-27-2007 07:51 PM

Re: hypothetical QQ scenario
 
You should bet ALOT in these scenarios, maybe even an overbet against a nit...that way we get them to fold more Ax Kx maybe ak if there a big nit.


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