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Bill Ivey 11-13-2007 09:43 PM

Super Tuesday - River C/R
 
I have played Boykee in cash games and he is pretty TAG, haven't played much with him in tourneys though... I'd imagine he has the same style.

What do you think?

PokerStars Game #13225423206: Tournament #66437130, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/11/13 - 20:34:21 (ET)
Table '66437130 25' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Boykee (3145 in chips)
Seat 2: IversonXX3 (3150 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: JOEYTHEB (2745 in chips)
Seat 4: psyduck101 (2395 in chips)
Seat 5: amichaiKK (5585 in chips)
Seat 6: Kongsgaard (7630 in chips)
Seat 7: Kenny Rap (3160 in chips)
Seat 8: Bill Ivey (4050 in chips)
Seat 9: LUHMAN (4960 in chips)
Kongsgaard: posts small blind 15
Kenny Rap: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bill Ivey [Jd Ac]
Bill Ivey: raises 60 to 90
LUHMAN: folds
Boykee: calls 90
IversonXX3: folds
IversonXX3 has returned
JOEYTHEB: folds
psyduck101: folds
amichaiKK: folds
Kongsgaard: folds
Kenny Rap: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 7h 4d]
Bill Ivey: bets 150
Boykee: calls 150
*** TURN *** [Js 7h 4d] [Jh]
Bill Ivey: checks
Boykee: checks
*** RIVER *** [Js 7h 4d Jh] [Qd]
Bill Ivey: checks
Boykee: bets 450
Bill Ivey: raises 630 to 1080
Boykee: raises 1825 to 2905 and is all-in
Bill Ivey: calls 1825

furfur 11-13-2007 09:51 PM

Re: Super Tuesday - River C/R
 
1. I don't like raising AJo UTG when deep-stacked. I'd fold there.
2. Why check the turn? If he has a PP and didn't believe u had a j on the flop(or is slow rolling aa,kk) then he's not going any where on turn either. I guess he may have ak or aq and u can let him "catch up" but on avg I like to bet again and keep our range wide b/c if u checkraise he'll be hardpressed to call whereas if u bet out enough u can get it all in on the river.
3. DO NOT check the river. He'd be only too happy to check behind with many hands that would call a bet.

Ansky 11-13-2007 09:51 PM

Re: Super Tuesday - River C/R
 
Betting seems much better than check raise on a board of this texture. Chances are if he was gonna bluff w/ a 65 or 89 type hand he'd have done it on the turn.

I think most often he has a marginal hand when u get to the river. Knowing what we know now, I'd say he has QQ here about 90% of the time, and I'd fold to the 3b.

Bill Ivey 11-13-2007 09:57 PM

Re: Super Tuesday - River C/R
 
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Betting seems much better than check raise on a board of this texture. Chances are if he was gonna bluff w/ a 65 or 89 type hand he'd have done it on the turn.

I think most often he has a marginal hand when u get to the river. Knowing what we know now, I'd say he has QQ here about 90% of the time, and I'd fold to the 3b.

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TY

furfur 11-13-2007 09:59 PM

Re: Super Tuesday - River C/R
 
u don't think he's reraising w/ qq preflop or raising on flop?

Ansky 11-13-2007 10:02 PM

Re: Super Tuesday - River C/R
 
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u don't think he's reraising w/ qq preflop or raising on flop?

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Given the description (mainly that hes a cashgame player and has played w/ BI), I'd say he almost never does either of those things.

furfur 11-13-2007 10:06 PM

Re: Super Tuesday - River C/R
 
ur saying this because he views hero as super aggro who will continue to push action for him and has wide range?

Ansky 11-13-2007 10:09 PM

Re: Super Tuesday - River C/R
 
hero is certainly not super aggro, the reason u call the flop and not raise is because raising folds out almost every hand u beat, and ensures a huge pot vs hands which beat you.

furfur 11-13-2007 10:11 PM

Re: Super Tuesday - River C/R
 
ty. what about preflop?

Ansky 11-13-2007 10:13 PM

Re: Super Tuesday - River C/R
 
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ty. what about preflop?

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same concept basically... QQ would definitely be on the bottom end of your perceived reraise range in a spot like that (utg open, utg+2 reraise looks VERY strong).


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