I think I played AA really badly here.. Anyone dont agree? 100 6max
 

No real reads.

I was thinking about turn raise here but realized that 89 got there, I cant beat 7 and its unlikely that he leads into me with wiered 10 or 6... On river I didnt thoght at all and just folded. Me=donk?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.5/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $66.65
UTG+1: $40.70
Hero: $84.30
Button: $68.71
SB: $46.90
BB: $82.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($25, 4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $14</font>, Button folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($52.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $11</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($75.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG is all-in $36.15</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $36.15 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $75.75

Re: I think I played AA really badly here.. Anyone dont agree? 100 6max
 

His turn bet does seem like a milker, but without a read it is hard to say. It could be a blocker type bet too, the sizing is kinda weird in any case. I would have a hard time folding my aces at this point given the tiny bet on his part.

On the river however, it does seem like you are probably beat. I don't think he is bluffing. Without a read, folding here seems good.

So overall I think you played fine.

Re: I think I played AA really badly here.. Anyone dont agree? 100 6max
 

??

Hero callz

the guy's short.

Re: I think I played AA really badly here.. Anyone dont agree? 100 6ma
 

I would have never gotten to the river.

Bet more on the flop, 18-25.

Shove turn.

PS - Refill your stack before this hand!

Re: I think I played AA really badly here.. Anyone dont agree? 100 6max
 

I'm pretty sure UTG had TT+ or hit his set and thought you missed with like AK, AQ.

Button probably had KQ, KJ, AJ, or maybe he was good enough to fold lower PP like 55.

UTG+1 seems like a weak player disregarding the other callers, and not caring that he's out of position, so he probably had like KJ, KQ, QJ, hoping for a good flop, anything less than that, and he shouldn't be playing at 100NL.

Overall, if your impression of UTG is that he seems like a solid tight aggressive player, then give him credit for having you beat with trips or a fullhouse, otherwise he had any PP or even still trips/fully and wanted to get paid off.

Re: I think I played AA really badly here.. Anyone dont agree? 100 6max
 

Well shortness isn't much of an issue if deciding to call an all-in bet on the river unless you think he is more apt to act a certain way when short. Do you think he is more apt to bluff all his chips or less apt. To me, he is probably slightly less apt to be bluffing here given that we have no reads, but since this is small stakes online, maybe i'm off base.

What hands could he be betting for value that we can beat?
JJ-KK (wouldn't he have raised initially preflop?)
A9, AT (Possible, the preflop call of the hero's raise would have dubious though I would think)

What hands could he be betting for value that we can't beat?
66,99,TT (66 seems likely, TT probably would have been raised initially preflop (we are 6 handed) but it isn't 100% certain. 99 isn't that likely, but not impossible)
89

Then there is the possibility of a bluff.

I guess given that the competition at this level isn't necassarily the greatest, there is decent chance you are good on the river, so given your 3 to 1 odds, maybe a call is OK. For some reason though I just get the feeling he has either 66 or 89.

Re: I think I played AA really badly here.. Anyone dont agree? 100 6max
 

Pretty gross spot. I think we have to call getting 4:1 but you could avoid this spots by betting more on the flop and raising the turn.

Re: I think I played AA really badly here.. Anyone dont agree? 100 6max
 

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Well shortness isn't much of an issue if deciding to call an all-in bet on the river unless you think he is more apt to act a certain way when short.

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Of course it is an issue... DUCY?

Re: I think I played AA really badly here.. Anyone dont agree? 100 6ma
 

push turn?

Re: I think I played AA really badly here.. Anyone dont agree? 100 6max
 

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Well shortness isn't much of an issue if deciding to call an all-in bet on the river unless you think he is more apt to act a certain way when short.

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Of course it is an issue... DUCY?

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Trying to come up with why it would be an issue, but can't figure it out. I can see it definetly being an issue on earlier rounds, but on the river I don't think it much matters, it is purely an odds problem.

You are getting 3 to 1 to call. So if you think that more than 25% of the time you have the best hand, you should call, otherwise fold. Without a read it is hard to say, but it seem reasonable at least to think this.

Edit: Is it because with a shorter stack you don't mind losing it all as much with a good but not great hand? So if he had the same size bet, but with more money behind, it would indicate more strength since he was putting those chips at risk too?