NLTRN - $22 - few hands leading up to worst rivar in the deck
 

here's villain's sharkscope, filtered for NL, Hold 'em, HU: JTmoney800: 244 $1 $40 2% $289

i showed the last hand to a few people and they all disagreed with my choice. my decision could be total nonsense but i'm just checking in.

*****HAND 1*****
Full Tilt Poker Game #4089015189: $22 + $1 Heads Up Sit & Go (31068877), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:34:04 ET - 2007/11/06
Thebutton is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to <font color="blue">heeroh</font> [7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
JTmoney800 folds
Uncalled bet of 15 returned to <font color="blue">heeroh</font>
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> mucks
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> wins the pot (30)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 30 | Rake 0
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (big blind) collected (30), mucked
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (small blind) folded before the Flop


*****HAND 2*****
Full Tilt Poker Game #4089016206: $22 + $1 Heads Up Sit &amp; Go (31068877), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:34:10 ET - 2007/11/06
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (1,515)
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (1,485)
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> posts the small blind of 15
JTmoney800 posts the big blind of 30
Thebutton is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to <font color="blue">heeroh</font> [2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> folds
Uncalled bet of 15 returned to JTmoney800
JTmoney800 mucks
JTmoney800 wins the pot (30)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 30 | Rake 0
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (big blind) collected (30), mucked


*****HAND 3*****
Full Tilt Poker Game #4089017549: $22 + $1 Heads Up Sit &amp; Go (31068877), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:34:19 ET - 2007/11/06
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (1,500)
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (1,500)
JTmoney800 posts the small blind of 15
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> posts the big blind of 30
Thebutton is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to <font color="blue">heeroh</font> [T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
JTmoney800 calls 15
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> checks
*** FLOP *** [4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> bets 40
JTmoney800 folds
Uncalled bet of 40 returned to <font color="blue">heeroh</font>
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> mucks
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> wins the pot (60)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 60 | Rake 0
Board: [4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (big blind) collected (60), mucked
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (small blind) folded on the Flop


*****HAND 4*****
Full Tilt Poker Game #4089020240: $22 + $1 Heads Up Sit &amp; Go (31068877), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:34:35 ET - 2007/11/06
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (1,530)
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (1,470)
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> posts the small blind of 15
JTmoney800 posts the big blind of 30
Thebutton is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to <font color="blue">heeroh</font> [7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> folds
Uncalled bet of 15 returned to JTmoney800
JTmoney800 mucks
JTmoney800 wins the pot (30)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 30 | Rake 0
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (big blind) collected (30), mucked


*****HAND 5*****
Full Tilt Poker Game #4089021679: $22 + $1 Heads Up Sit &amp; Go (31068877), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:34:43 ET - 2007/11/06
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (1,515)
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (1,485)
JTmoney800 posts the small blind of 15
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> posts the big blind of 30
Thebutton is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to <font color="blue">heeroh</font> [7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
JTmoney800 calls 15
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> checks
*** FLOP *** [T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> checks
JTmoney800 checks
*** TURN *** [T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> bets 40
JTmoney800 folds
Uncalled bet of 40 returned to <font color="blue">heeroh</font>
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> mucks
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> wins the pot (60)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 60 | Rake 0
Board: [T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (big blind) collected (60), mucked
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (small blind) folded on the Turn


*****HAND 6*****
Full Tilt Poker Game #4089025077: $22 + $1 Heads Up Sit &amp; Go (31068877), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:35:05 ET - 2007/11/06
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (1,545)
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (1,455)
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> posts the small blind of 15
JTmoney800 posts the big blind of 30
Thebutton is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to <font color="blue">heeroh</font> [K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> raises to 75
JTmoney800 calls 45
*** FLOP *** [5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
JTmoney800 checks
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> bets 105
JTmoney800 calls 105
*** TURN *** [5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
JTmoney800 checks
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> has 15 seconds left to act
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> bets 120
JTmoney800 calls 120
*** RIVER *** [5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
JTmoney800 checks
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> shows [K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] a pair of Kings
JTmoney800 mucks
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> wins the pot (600) with a pair of Kings
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 600 | Rake 0
Board: [5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (small blind) showed [K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] and won (600) with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (big blind) mucked [8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] - a pair of Fives


*****HAND 7*****
Full Tilt Poker Game #4089031599: $22 + $1 Heads Up Sit &amp; Go (31068877), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:35:46 ET - 2007/11/06
Seat 1: <font color="blue">heeroh</font> (1,845)
Seat 2: JTmoney800 (1,155)
JTmoney800 posts the small blind of 15
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> posts the big blind of 30
Thebutton is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to <font color="blue">heeroh</font> [T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
JTmoney800 calls 15
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> checks
*** FLOP *** [4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> checks
JTmoney800 bets 30
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> calls 30
*** TURN *** [4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> checks
JTmoney800 checks
*** RIVER *** [4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
<font color="blue">heeroh</font> bets 90
JTmoney800 raises to 1,095, and is all in
<font color="blue">heeroh</font>

if y'all wanna comment on the second T7 hand (hand 5 - which btw i felt bad about directly afterwards but now can rationalize it) and the K2 hand (hand 6 - same feeling, mainly on the turn) then i'll accept that, too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

thanks everyone,
martin

Re: NLTRN - $22 - few hands leading up to worst rivar in the deck
 

bump for the morning crowd

Re: NLTRN - $22 - few hands leading up to worst rivar in the deck
 

That's a nasty spot. I'd fold. More likely he hit the flush than full house. Chance of trips, but to push when the flush hit seems very strong.

Re: NLTRN - $22 - few hands leading up to worst rivar in the deck
 

Really tough spot here.. From the past hands villain does not seem very wild or aggresive so this move is a bit weird. I'm not sure how I would weight the different possibility of holdings he could have, flush, trips, boat or perhaps even the same hand as you..

If he has not done a shove like this before I think I fold this, the pot is really small and although you have a super strong hand the board is pretty scary.

Interrested to hear if anyone think this is a clear call

Re: NLTRN - $22 - few hands leading up to worst rivar in the deck
 

Yeah, the flush is too likely, I fold here. I just cant imagine anyone shoving here as a total bluff. Trips are def a possibility, but you know, after hand 6 I label him as a retard. With trips he had to be betting the flop as a total bluff and picked up his queen on the turn. Retards love to bet again in this situation. Plus the 3flush on board should make him less inclined to shove with trips.

Re: NLTRN - $22 - few hands leading up to worst rivar in the deck
 

It's probably a solid fold. If villain has anything worse than a flush he is basically turning his hand into a bluff by shoving that river. I would need a pretty solid read to make this call.