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ASPoker8 10-10-2007 04:08 AM

400NL - Play the board, shove the river?
 
Villain is PiS.ToTo. He may or may not be a regular (I don't know yet).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($391.50)
Hero ($517)
UTG ($427.10)
MP ($990.05)
CO ($447.50)
Button ($723.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $68</font>, MP folds, SB calls $48.

Flop: ($140) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($140) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($140) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $449</font>

bigbabyjesus 10-10-2007 04:11 AM

Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?
 
I don't like it because a 7 doesn't make much sense for your hand range. It'd be very rare for you to have a 7 here and any decent hand reader will call figuring it's a chop.. also you run the risk of him having 77 and stacking you. I just call.

jfish 10-10-2007 05:03 AM

Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?
 
this is as close to a freeroll as you will get. its fine.

homeboy604 10-10-2007 05:57 AM

Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?
 
bet flop, call river.

bigbabyjesus 10-10-2007 06:02 AM

Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?
 
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this is as close to a freeroll as you will get. its fine.

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I don't really agree with this. I wouldn't expect anyone to fold this river, coupled with the fact 77 is in his range thus we get stacked occasionally I can't see this being +EV.

lucksack 10-10-2007 06:11 AM

Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?
 
why do you raise pf, isn't sb raiser's range pretty small usually?

i dont like river raise, he's not folding anything. i'd rather bluff on flop or turn.

T0ne D0wn 10-10-2007 06:18 AM

Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?
 
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this is as close to a freeroll as you will get. its fine.

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I don't really agree with this.

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jfish 10-10-2007 06:20 AM

Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?
 
what multitabler raises 77, A7 or 78s stuff from the SB after a limper?

T0ne D0wn 10-10-2007 06:23 AM

Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?
 
explain risk:reward ratio jfish. I think he calls and assumes it is a chop more then he folds. I dont think minimal fold equity our line has, will make up for the times where he has a seven.

jfish 10-10-2007 06:23 AM

Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?
 
well that question was rhetorical, not very many iso oop with 7x in their range. i think the few times he folds here more than makes up for the few times he calls with 7x.


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