nl100 JJ in BB, is this spew?
 

no real reads on either villain

is this spew w/ JJ? I didn't think mp2 had QQ-AA after he called my 3bet, and he may fold QQ if he did, and i would hope he'd fold AK. Button is short so I'm happy to commit to a pot with him, but i dont really want to have mp2 in there as well.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $100.35
BTN: $28.85
SB: $63.40
Hero (BB): $81.70
UTG: $107.30
UTG+1: $100
UTG+2: $18.50
MP1: $140.30
MP2: $116.25

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $4</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $4, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, UTG folds, MP2 calls $12, <font color="red">BTN raises to $28.85 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $81.70 and is All-In</font>, MP2.... (no results)

Re: nl100 JJ in BB, is this spew?
 

Next time I would just call BTN's reraise allin. Also depends on Mp2's stats.

Re: nl100 JJ in BB, is this spew?
 

meh. I probably play it the same way readless. We are definitely well ahead of BTN's range here and unless MP2 is an absolute rock were probably flipping at worst with them as well. So just shove it in and embrace the variance

Re: nl100 JJ in BB, is this spew?
 

I would play it same way.

Re: nl100 JJ in BB, is this spew?
 

Maybe I am in the minority here, but I dont see this as a great move, At best your hoping button and MP1 are counterfeiting each other, but you probably behind at least one of these opponents. And remember 40% of the time and overcard will flop, which will fit right into there ranges.

Just not a fan of this, but I would love to hear more opinions....

Re: nl100 JJ in BB, is this spew?
 

i like this all the way around. nh

Re: nl100 JJ in BB, is this spew?
 

I usually don't 3-bet this preflop. I prefer to flat call and play for set value. I just don't like building big pots out of position.

But I can see the merits of 3-betting, so maybe I'm wrong.

As played, I think your decision to push was correct.

Re: nl100 JJ in BB, is this spew?
 

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Re: nl100 JJ in BB, is this spew?
 

Yeah I don't mind this, sometimes, especially against unknowns I tend to flat call a little more pre-flop. I prefer to at least know a little about my opponent before i'm 3-betting jacks out of position.

Re: nl100 JJ in BB, is this spew?
 

Meh. Shove = bluff here and it's a dry sidepot. Not every Villain would four bet you with Aces or Kings. I wouldn't. But you might have enough FE against AK and Queens to make this bluff profitable. Anybody feel like running the math here. Idk what range to give BTN though.