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cardcore 11-11-2007 11:32 AM

(Party 5/10) 2 questionable preflop folds
 
Villain in both Hands is psykotow (21/17/3.48). He is tight preflop, 3-bets "normal" and I've never seen him making 4-bet bluffs or in general, loose 4-bets. He knows that I'm a loose squeezer / 3 better.

How bad are these folds:

1.)
Party Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $1,957
CO: $1,372.75
Hero (BTN): $1,000
SB: $1,099
BB: $1,684
UTG: $1,239

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $35</font>, MP calls $35, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $160</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $1,099 and is All-In</font>, 4 folds

Results: $400 Pot

2.)
Party Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $2,370
Hero (BTN): $1,347
SB: $1,962.75
BB: $350.25
UTG: $190
MP: $1,128

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $35</font>, CO calls $35, <font color="red">Hero raises to $160</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1,128 and is All-In</font>, 2 folds

Results: $370 Pot

Praetor 11-11-2007 11:35 AM

Re: (Party 5/10) 2 questionable preflop folds
 
I just call in #2

I think folding #1 is ok

cbboy 11-11-2007 11:55 AM

Re: (Party 5/10) 2 questionable preflop folds
 
Yeah, I agree with praetor on hand 2.

What are UTG's stats in hand 1?

tozzy 11-11-2007 12:05 PM

Re: (Party 5/10) 2 questionable preflop folds
 
i saw him shove 88 in pretty much the same spot as #2.

AlanDyer 11-11-2007 12:23 PM

Re: (Party 5/10) 2 questionable preflop folds
 
#1: all in, easy.
#2: tough. fold it the first time around, but don't give him too much credit..

Villeroi 11-11-2007 12:29 PM

Re: (Party 5/10) 2 questionable preflop folds
 
If u call 1st hand i will fold 2nd hand. If u fold 1st hand i will call 2nd hand. If this hands were played in different session i will call both, no need for him to reise so much with AA or KK, the best he can hold is QQ or unpaired cards AQ or smth.

FionnMac 11-11-2007 12:34 PM

Re: (Party 5/10) 2 questionable preflop folds
 
WTF

How aren't these both snap calls?

#1 I'd only fold if UTG is a total nit and you know psyktow won't be squeezing light

#2 is a typical squeeze spot, and you are considering folding AK for 110bb vs a reg? SNAAAAAAP call it all day.

cardcore 11-11-2007 12:53 PM

Re: (Party 5/10) 2 questionable preflop folds
 
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WTF

How aren't these both snap calls?

#2 is a typical squeeze spot, and you are considering folding AK for 110bb vs a reg? SNAAAAAAP call it all day.

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I have TT in #2

FionnMac 11-11-2007 12:56 PM

Re: (Party 5/10) 2 questionable preflop folds
 
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WTF

How aren't these both snap calls?

#2 is a typical squeeze spot, and you are considering folding AK for 110bb vs a reg? SNAAAAAAP call it all day.

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I have TT in #2

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ok, my bad. I'd prob just call pf, i like to polarise my range here. I'd stack off with JJ for sure, TT is tough.

The Velour Fog 11-11-2007 05:26 PM

Re: (Party 5/10) 2 questionable preflop folds
 
hand 1 i call hand 2 i fold against this villain


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