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wikemang 11-29-2007 05:37 PM

50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 
I have villain at 13.5/4.6/3.4 over 259 hands.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 ($13.65)
MP3 ($47.75)
CO ($41.25)
Button ($35.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($95.40)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB ($104.30)</font>
UTG ($49.35)
UTG+1 ($55.45)
MP1 ($29.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $5</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $3.25.

Turn: ($11.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $7.5</font>, Hero calls $7.50.

River: ($26.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10.

My main question is on the flop. Should I be 3betting here? If so, to how much? Is folding an option? As played, what do you think? Personally, I'm not happy with my line, but at the time I was totally lost. After much thought, I'm still lost. Thanks in advance for your help.

AllTheCheese 11-29-2007 05:43 PM

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 
Don't overbet flop. As played, dump it on river probably.

Flop three-bet to $16 is okay. I'd shut down on that turn-card if called though. On a blank, idk, I guess commit but it's really gonna suck if he flips pocket 8s.

ship_it_trebek 11-29-2007 05:43 PM

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 
On that drawy board, I 3bet the flop. Folding the flop is bad.

oxiej 11-29-2007 05:43 PM

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 
you donīt beat an awfull lot on this river. i donīt like your line either.

tho as played i think turn is key. vs this opponent whe could consider bet folding turn right? when call whe try to check it down and check/fold river right?

i like bet fold turn here.

on river whe dont beat much other then AK and possible overplayed QQ/jj

wikemang 11-29-2007 05:44 PM

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 
I just hit the pot button b/c I was 10-tabling, hence the overbet.

wikemang 11-29-2007 05:47 PM

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 
On the river I'm looking at ~3.6:1 on a call, still fold?

Berge20 11-29-2007 05:49 PM

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 
CO posted and checked when it folded to him. I guess it is possible this villian just checked two eights there, but I'd be very surprised. (Wonder what his steal rate is)

Given that, I probably 3-bet the flop here. He has Kx spades often enough or K8/T8 to justify that raise.
Turn card is obviously not a great one--I almost want to lead 2/3-3/4 pot to see how he reacts, especially if you are check-calling such an amount.

His river bet is odd, but it could easily be the flush semi-scared of the paired card...but not wanting a free SD since you checked.

wikemang 11-29-2007 05:54 PM

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 
Villain's attempt to steal blinds is 50% (3/6).

ClubChamp04 11-29-2007 11:43 PM

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 
I'm looking to get it in on this flop and you got handcuffed as a result of just calling his raise here. You don't beat anything on the river so unless you think he is on total air you have to fold.

Chargers In 07 11-29-2007 11:46 PM

Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked
 
Reraise flop as stated before. River call is def. bad. His raising range on the flop has to be good draws/8T/KT/K8/TT/88/AK. All draws hit, you chop with one hand, he checks the river with one of those, and two rivered you.


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