river sexy yes or no?
 

utg limps, i raise KKs next in, CO coldcalls (TAGgish old man doesnt get outof line too much), both blinds call, limper calls, lets see a flop...

flop is AJ6 all spades
checked to me
i bet
CO checks his cards again and raises
folds to me
i call

turn 2s
i bet
he calls

river K
i check

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Doesn't this guy have to have exactly the Q of spades for you to even have a change of making money by check raising the river?

I'm confused.

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I think this guy is likely to bet AT with the Ts, or 99 with the 9s or JT with the Ts, or whole host of other hands which you beat. I dont think this is a board he bluffs often, so u have little bluff induction value. I think you need to continue betting against most opponents, as they'll frequently pay off with 2 pair or smallish flushes but wont bet many worse hands.

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Doesn't this guy have to have exactly the Q of spades for you to even have a change of making money by check raising the river?

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Even then, it's not 100% that he'll call the raise.

River c/r here seems terrible to me. His call on the turn seems to say that he's either trying to get to showdown cheap, flopped a set and is drawing, or he's slowplaying and planning to raise the river (unlikely). There's a slim chance that he'll fold a set to a bet but will bet it if you check, but I think most of the time he'll make the crying call anyway, so you never gain anything by checking.

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No. If he called the turn he's calling the river. Just bet and get your monies from him. Why give him a chance to check behind?

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I'm pretty sure that the 4th Commandment states "thou shalt not count on old men to bet 9 or T high flushes"

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I wouldnt try this live. Especially vs old guys. They check the Qs here no lies.

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I wouldnt try this live. Especially vs old guys. They check the Qs here no lies.

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Once I saw one b/f 2ndNut4flush...

Seriously why are they so bad?

JT

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I think you left 97% of a BB out there. It is so rare that you will get 2 bets out of this and so common that he'll check behind with a hand that he would have called.
It changes slightly if this isn't a TAGish old man, but I bet this river almost 100% of the time.

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Even the Commerce donkeys find a river fold to a c/r here, but much of the time won't bet the flush anyway.

IMO, a check here is just costing yourself money.