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BobboFitos 09-27-2007 10:08 PM

Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
Anyone like these bluffs? Also, pf->river?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $138.00
BB: $410.00
UTG: $392.00
CO: $342.25
Hero (BTN): $1,160.60

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is playing a snug 19.5/9.5 TAG game. Despite the decent stats however he has struck me as a weak player, especially because he didnt top off his stack, for instance.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $16.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $32.00

Flop: ($102) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($102) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $85.00</font>, CO calls $85.00

River: ($272) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $210.00</font> (I'm putting him all in)

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

BB: $1,006.00
Hero (SB): $1,112.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Early in the match, Villain is playing with HU stats of 52/50, so he's both loose and 3betting early and often.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $30.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $100.00</font>, Hero calls $70.00

Flop: ($200) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $100.00</font>, Hero calls $100.00

Turn: ($400) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $300.00</font>, BB calls $300.00

River: ($1000) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $612.00</font> (it's a bit more then half pot to him)

Melchiades 09-27-2007 10:20 PM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
1 works for me, 2 looks meh.

FionnMac 09-27-2007 10:30 PM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
bet flop in #1 please, don't like turn/river as played. not a big fan of #2 either sorry, people don't fold very often in hu 3-bet pots!

FionnMac 09-27-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
i really can't understand your flop check in #1, i'd bet this exactly 100% of the time, maybe you misclicked?

Redgrape 09-27-2007 10:54 PM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
why threebet in hand 1?

jlocdog 09-27-2007 11:00 PM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
[ QUOTE ]
1 works for me, 2 looks meh.

[/ QUOTE ]

Funny, I thought just the opposite.

Hand 1 I feel he may be too shallow to fold out a mid PP (which would seem to be a big part of his range). You represent JJ-KK very well with this line but stacks may just dictate a light lookup.

Hand 2 I like precisely because of this type of opponent. They will often play through the flop with anything and let postflop start at the turn so to speak. Great float instead of raise by the way on the flop.

Irish Mafia 09-27-2007 11:29 PM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 2 I like precisely because of this type of opponent. They will often play through the flop with anything and let postflop start at the turn so to speak. Great float instead of raise by the way on the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

But even if "postflop starts on the turn" - villain called hero's turn bet. So i'm not sure he's on AK/AQ anymore - and based on his pf stats, I'd say he abhors folding.

AAismyfriend 09-27-2007 11:38 PM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
I'd like hand 2 more if villain wasn't so looooooose. Hand 1 is good vs a thinking player because he's going to assume you would fire with air on the flop here because well........ why would you ever check the flop with J/Q/K high in this spot? I think it's totally reasonable for you to show up with an ace here as well as JJ-KK given flop/turn/river action. I don't like it if he's stationy though.

Irish Mafia 09-27-2007 11:42 PM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
By the way, its not totally unreasonable for villain in hand#1 to have an ace himself.

ArturiusX 09-27-2007 11:42 PM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
#2 worked, without a doubt.


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