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Dumb Fish x 08-16-2007 01:06 PM

Ed Miller\'s Short Hand Strategy on Full Tilt...
 
Okay, as I said in my other thread, I will post today's results for critisism. I will post any significant hands here for flameing/glorified praise. I will not post boring hands such as me getting KK and everyone folding (which has already happened once).

Certainly no compaints about the first hand! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

HAND #1

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $18.50
BB: $35.90
UTG: $53.85
UTG+1: $48.60
MP1: $49.05
MP2: $18.45
MP3: $10.00
Dumb Fish x (CO): $11.00
BTN: $100.95

MP3 posts $0.50
Dumb Fish x posts $0.50
Preflop: Dumb Fish x is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
4 folds, MP3 checks, <font color="red">Dumb Fish x raises to $3.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $2.50, MP3 calls $2.50

Flop: ($9.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Dumb Fish x raises all-in to $8.00</font>, BB calls $8.00, MP3 calls all-in for $6.50

Turn: ($32.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($32.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $32.25 ($1.60 Rake)

MP3 had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$10.00)
BB had 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$11.00)
Dumb Fish x had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Jacks) and WON (+$19.65)

Foolgizaki 08-16-2007 01:11 PM

Re: Ed Miller\'s Short Hand Strategy on Full Tilt...
 
Can you get away from either MP3 or BB's hand post-flop when playing against an opponent with so little chips?

Dumb Fish x 08-16-2007 01:14 PM

Re: Ed Miller\'s Short Hand Strategy on Full Tilt...
 
Hand #2

I think I got a bit excited here and could have wound up in very big trouble. I think I misplayed this hand badly. Critisism very welcome. Keep in mind, the play may look silly but I'm trying to strictly abide by Ed's strategy here.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $18.95
BB: $20.10
UTG: $69.65
UTG+1: $223.90
MP: $32.45
CO: $52.40
Dumb Fish x (BTN): $10.85

Preflop: Dumb Fish x is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">Dumb Fish x raises to $3.00</font>, SB calls $2.75, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($9) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Dumb Fish x bets all-in for $7.85</font>, 2 folds
Uncalled bet of $7.85 returned to Dumb Fish x

Pot Size: $9.00 ($0.45 Rake)

Dumb Fish x 08-16-2007 01:17 PM

Re: Ed Miller\'s Short Hand Strategy on Full Tilt...
 
[ QUOTE ]
Can you get away from either MP3 or BB's hand post-flop when playing against an opponent with so little chips?

[/ QUOTE ]

I suppose that's the whole point! (?)

phydaux 08-16-2007 01:21 PM

Re: Ed Miller\'s Short Hand Strategy on Full Tilt...
 
[ QUOTE ]
Can you get away from either MP3 or BB's hand post-flop when playing against an opponent with so little chips?

[/ QUOTE ]

He's playing the Short Stack Strategy. Correctly, this time.

Dumb Fish x 08-16-2007 01:30 PM

Re: Ed Miller\'s Short Hand Strategy on Full Tilt...
 
HAND #3

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $62.20
BB: $49.45
Dumb Fish x (UTG): $10.00
MP: $13.80
CO: $74.05
BTN: $18.95

Preflop: Dumb Fish x is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Dumb Fish x raises to $3.50</font>, MP calls $3.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($7.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Dumb Fish x bets all-in for $6.50</font>, MP folds
Uncalled bet of $6.50 returned to Dumb Fish x

Pot Size: $7.75 ($0.35 Rake)

Followed directly by HAND #4 (same table)...I raised a tad more than normal here because I thought I'd get a call or two since I raised preflop last hand too.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $48.95
BB: $50.00
Dumb Fish x (UTG): $13.90
UTG+1: $20.00
MP1: $10.30
MP2: $74.05
CO: $18.95
BTN: $61.95

UTG+1 posts $0.50
Preflop: Dumb Fish x is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 Players)
<font color="red">Dumb Fish x raises to $4.00</font>, 7 folds
Uncalled bet of $3.50 returned to Dumb Fish x

Pot Size: $1.75

phydaux 08-16-2007 01:30 PM

Re: Ed Miller\'s Short Hand Strategy on Full Tilt...
 
You played both hands perfectly. Including the second one.

Hand 2 you had position and you had initiative as the pre-flop raiser. Your opponents showed weakness by checking. You bet, and they had no reason to doubt the pocket ace you were representing.

Your flop aggression is winning you pots, and your big pre-flop raises are making sure the pots you win have some chips in them.

You'll still get stacked occasionally, but use proper BR management and you should be able to grind out a consistent win rate.

Dumb Fish x 08-16-2007 01:41 PM

Re: Ed Miller\'s Short Hand Strategy on Full Tilt...
 
HAND #5

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Dumb Fish x (SB): $12.35
BB: $21.50
UTG: $23.70
UTG+1: $82.35
MP1: $17.20
MP2: $64.65
MP3: $47.20
CO: $46.40
BTN: $49.25

Preflop: Dumb Fish x is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, 6 folds, <font color="red">Dumb Fish x raises to $3.50</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $3.00

Flop: ($7.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Dumb Fish x bets all-in for $8.85</font>, UTG folds
Uncalled bet of $8.85 returned to Dumb Fish x

Pot Size: $7.50 ($0.35 Rake)

phydaux 08-16-2007 01:49 PM

Re: Ed Miller\'s Short Hand Strategy on Full Tilt...
 
You seem to have got the hang of it.

Careful though. Your last thread kind of sounded like a whine. This one is sounding like a brag.

Dumb Fish x 08-16-2007 01:53 PM

Re: Ed Miller\'s Short Hand Strategy on Full Tilt...
 
Okay things are going down hill now...

The next 3 hands I have lost. (...it begins). Critisism wanted. Note that with the marginal hands I was the BB and got a free flop and flopped two pair both times to get beaten. These are the things that have made me a losing player with this strategy. This is how it usually goes...

Hand #6 I think I played poorly. Hands #7 and #8 demonstrate why I am seemingly always ending up losing in the long run.

HAND #6 - <font color="blue">LOSS</font> - Critisism Welcome.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $13.70
BB: $82.35
UTG: $16.70
UTG+1: $64.65
MP1: $47.20
MP2: $46.40
MP3: $55.85
Dumb Fish x (CO): $16.00
BTN: $20.75

Preflop: Dumb Fish x is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 folds, <font color="red">Dumb Fish x raises to $3.50</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $3.25, 2 folds

Flop: ($8) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $10.20</font>, Dumb Fish x calls $10.20

Turn: ($28.40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($28.40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $28.40 ($1.40 Rake)

SB had 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Sixes) and WON (+$13.30)
Dumb Fish x had 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Eights and Sixes) and LOST (-$13.70)


HAND #7 - <font color="blue">LOSS</font>

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $47.60
BB: $51.05
UTG: $23.70
UTG+1: $56.95
MP1: $44.00
MP2: $32.90
MP3: $31.95
Dumb Fish x (CO): $8.75
BTN: $42.70

Preflop: Dumb Fish x is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 folds, Dumb Fish x calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($3) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">Dumb Fish x bets all-in for $8.25</font>, 4 folds, MP2 calls $8.25

Turn: ($19.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($19.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $19.50 ($0.95 Rake)

MP2 had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Queens) and WON (+$9.80)
Dumb Fish x had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Queens) and LOST (-$8.75)


HAND #8 - <font color="blue">LOSS</font>

Well - I seem to have lost Hand #8 somewhere! But I lost about $13 in similar fashion to HAND 7.


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