is this close?
 

44 in SB and i complete after a fishy limper, BB checks. bb is tag.

flop A45r
I bet, bb raises, I 3bet

turn Tr
I bet, bb raises, I ???

Re: is this close?
 

meh i don't think so. Even if he has 23 you have 11 outs. There are a lot of 2 pair combos.

Re: is this close?
 

I dont think that there's any way that bb doesnt raise TT+ in that situation, and its fairly unlikely that he'll check 55 there.

More likely is a twopair turn hand that doesnt include the ace. I'd keep the gas down.

Re: is this close?
 

I'd 3-bet without thinking.

Re: is this close?
 

all in

Re: is this close?
 

hmmmm ok

two followups:

what should a reasonable villain's range be when he raises the turn? do you guys think a raise with bottom two is good here? do you ever raise with one pair here?

what do we do on river if he caps? esp a board pairing river.

Re: is this close?
 

if he did manage to check the bb with Ax or A5 he could be on that line - mainly because your hand can't rep the ace and your line looks like it wants a fold - especially on the flop.

If you threeball the turn, he caps, the river pairs, you bet, he raises then i'd just call there and concde that he either played weird preflop, caught a miracle postflop, or spewed.

Re: is this close?
 

guru I pretty much never raise A4/A5/55 in the bb in this spot. i actually think it's pretty bad..

Re: is this close?
 

agree raising those hands is bad.

i think it is close. if he caps, then yeah fold river ui.

Re: is this close?
 

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guru I pretty much never raise A4/A5/55 in the bb in this spot. i actually think it's pretty bad..

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