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flawless_victory 05-02-2006 12:31 AM

5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
 
folded to me on button i open Jd6d (my image is LAG), sb(950) who is tightish TAG player and seems decent (sry no PT stats) repots to 115. BB folds and i decide to raise again making it 290 str8, he pauses and calls.

flop comes K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
check to me...

pot is 590 and we have 650 left. push and try to leverage some FE or check behind and see a freebie?

Roman 05-02-2006 12:33 AM

Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
 
push yo

FoxwoodsFiend 05-02-2006 12:36 AM

Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
 
I used to push on TAGs in this situation all the time, but realized that they always trap in this spot with monsters and only sometimes lay down QQ. I would check behind and stack him when the diamond comes on the turn.

Actual God 05-02-2006 12:38 AM

Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
 
Push dat [censored]. If a brick comes, you can't win the juicy pot.

KRANTZ 05-02-2006 12:42 AM

Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
 
shove, this is great for your image either way

Big_Jim 05-02-2006 05:25 AM

Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
 
I think his range is so heavily weighted towards AA/KK/Occational AK that you should take your freebee.

You may fold QQ sometimes... but he put in half his stack PF, and he's probably calling.

I don't think the metagame is worth it, and folding to a turn push shows that you're re-raising light, anyway. Besides, I think that we [censored] with his head a lot more when we hit our freebee on the turn, and bust his KKK.

You also have 6 outs to a big enough draw to call a turn push with only very slightly -EV, which would also have very interesting meta-game implications, ESPECIALLY if you suck out.

JaBlue 05-02-2006 06:01 AM

Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
 
check behind

Tulosba 05-02-2006 06:04 AM

Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
 
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shove, this is great for your image either way

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Maulik 05-02-2006 06:41 AM

Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
 
You need to see two cards - no way your going to see the river without calling close to pot on the turn.

Big_Jim 05-02-2006 07:22 AM

Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
 
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You need to see two cards

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Why?


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