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PokerJans 11-01-2007 11:59 PM

Hand from weeeeeks ago (8-16 at HG)
 
Here is a hand from the last HE session I played.

I have a tight-solid image. I open from EP1 with AJ. Two callers along with the BB.

BB is the villain in this hand. Known to be a solid poker player in general but a loose cannon, does some funny stuff. We have played together a fair amount but never really tangled in a hand until tonight. The first hand we played against each other tonight went like this...

UTG limp, Villain limp, fold, I raise with QQ, two calls, so a few to the flop. J76 - check to me, I bet, he c/r one call, I three bet he calls. Turn 9 and it checks to me again and he raises again. River was something stupid and I folded after he bet with confidence.

In general he has been on a rush. BACK to the actual hand now...

Flop is J55

They check to me, I bet, villain calls along with player on his left who has been calling EVERYTHING so that doesn't mean much.

Turn is 8 so board of J558

He donks. Is he trying to bet three-bet? Ole' donk the turn is the new c/r?? Trying to make me fold because he thinks I am FOS/weak/whatever? What is going on here?

Do I raise for value? Call down? Raise the river? Soooo many options!!!!!!

One Outer 11-02-2007 12:07 AM

Re: Hand from weeeeeks ago (8-16 at HG)
 
I'm confused, which means my default play is to call down. I don't want to get three bet.

kbdunn 11-02-2007 12:31 AM

Re: Hand from weeeeeks ago (8-16 at HG)
 
Since you have a read the hand is a tad easier to play. Do you think the villain is capable of 3 betting with a worse jack or 8 or straight draw? If not, then raising here, folding to a 3 bet, and bet/folding the river may work. If you arent sure or dont want to open yourself up to a 3 bet just call down, you make money if he is pushing a weaker hand obviously and will never be bluffed out.

Sometimes this a 5 if the villain thinks you will check behind in fear of a c/r (though if he thinks this he should have played the flop fast), sometimes this is just a pair or top two, sometimes its air.

fishyak 11-02-2007 02:25 PM

Re: Hand from weeeeeks ago (8-16 at HG)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Sometimes this a 5 if the villain thinks you will check behind in fear of a c/r (though if he thinks this he should have played the flop fast), sometimes this is just a pair or top two, sometimes its air.

[/ QUOTE ] Edited by fishyak.

You've played these kinds of guys often enough. They LOVE and LIVE to win with weak cards like a 5. Call down. I smell a 5.


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