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Thomas Luice 10-26-2007 09:54 AM

Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
I found it in a chinese poker forum. I was so surprise that Ipoker could give someone hand history with all players' hole cards. This man, who got the HH, is a big affiliate. I think he must have some special right (e.g. superaccount) in Ipoker so that he can get such HH.

He posted his hand history and asked in the post if his fold is correct.
http://i24.tinypic.com/witxd5.jpg

Then after some answers he posted the following HH with all players' hole cards in the same thread and said that it was a mistake to fold.
http://i24.tinypic.com/30il6ao.jpg

What I want to say is whether everyone can get the second hand history if he requested. This man is NOT staff of any poker room. I don't know why he can get the 2. HH. Has Ipoker this service, that anyone can get such a HH with all hole cards? If only someone can get such HH and do some analysis, isn't it a big advantage for him?

NoMeansYes_ 10-26-2007 10:03 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
In before visit to costa rica

fatshaft 10-26-2007 10:04 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
You need to give more details. However that is the admin view of the hand history, the top one with only the player's hole cards is the client side HH viewer. They've copied and pasted the other one from the admin.

I don't follow what you're trying to claim happened here?

xSCWx 10-26-2007 10:07 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[x] #*DIAMONDS%#$

ROcketRO 10-26-2007 10:09 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
how do you know this? do you speek chineese and understand what he is saying?

Astyanax 10-26-2007 10:09 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
head asplode

TheyCallMeDonk 10-26-2007 10:11 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
not appropriate

actyper 10-26-2007 10:12 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
When you are the god of gamblers you can do whatever you want

dlorc 10-26-2007 10:12 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
Where is yvessaint when you need a chinaman.

F. McSimmons 10-26-2007 10:12 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
If he could see the cards why didn't he call the turn?

tufat23 10-26-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
someone translate obv

Shizzle12345 10-26-2007 10:18 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
not appropriate

Coy_Roy 10-26-2007 10:19 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
someone translate obv

[/ QUOTE ]


Ancient Chinese proverb:

Man who go to sleep with itchy butt, wake up with stinky fingers.

its_just_me 10-26-2007 10:21 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
zomfg...i forgot how to read letters...i hate it when this happens

Gildwulf 10-26-2007 10:30 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
Thomas, I think what these people are trying to say is we don't understand wtf is going on in this hand history because it is in a different language. Post translation.

Quagmyer 10-26-2007 10:37 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
getting so tired of seeing "superuser" threads.. Will not open any more of them

its_just_me 10-26-2007 10:41 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
@OP
could u post the url? i think google could translate this ...uhm...language

Flintoff 10-26-2007 10:42 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
[x] #*DIAMONDS%#$

[/ QUOTE ]

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Thomas Luice 10-26-2007 10:52 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
I apalogize!

I have translated his words:
http://i24.tinypic.com/245j8u8.jpg

http://i21.tinypic.com/fk8a2s.jpg

My questions are:
1) Is it possible or allowed that any player can request the HH with all players' hole cards (2. picture above)?

2) If the answer to 1) is NO, then whether the player who can get the HH with all players' hole cards has an clear advantage?

3)The poster is a big affiliate for this pokerroom and he has good relationship with their manager. Can any pokerroom provide such HH to their friend?

fatshaft 10-26-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
Ok thanks. But where did he get the admin HH from? Did he email support?

Bode-ist 10-26-2007 10:58 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
Where is yvessaint when you need a chinaman.

[/ QUOTE ]
chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature, dude.

ski 10-26-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
pretty sure its japanese

and LOL I've played with tonikani at 25/50 and (IIRC) 50/100 before.

Thomas Luice 10-26-2007 11:05 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
Ok thanks. But where did he get the admin HH from? Did he email support?

[/ QUOTE ]

He is just a normal player and a big affiliate for this pokerroom. He knows many staffs in the pokerroom and has good relationship because of the affiliate. I think he just requested such HH and the pokerroom satisfied him.

ikestoys 10-26-2007 11:05 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[] evidence of superaccount

Hattifnatt 10-26-2007 11:08 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Ok thanks. But where did he get the admin HH from? Did he email support?

[/ QUOTE ]

He is just a normal player and a big affiliate for this pokerroom. He knows many staffs in the pokerroom and has good relationship because of the affiliate. I think he just requested such HH and the pokerroom satisfied him.

[/ QUOTE ]
thats obv the case.

[ ] ZOMG Rigged

SABR42 10-26-2007 11:13 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
pretty sure its japanese

[/ QUOTE ]
Incorrect.

fatshaft 10-26-2007 11:15 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Ok thanks. But where did he get the admin HH from? Did he email support?

[/ QUOTE ]

He is just a normal player and a big affiliate for this pokerroom. He knows many staffs in the pokerroom and has good relationship because of the affiliate. I think he just requested such HH and the pokerroom satisfied him.

[/ QUOTE ]
thats obv the case.

[ ] ZOMG Rigged

[/ QUOTE ]Yup, panic over. Mind you they shouldn't be sending the HHs in that format to any player, affiliate or not, but Superuser - oh dear [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

The 13th 4postle 10-26-2007 11:17 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
Your going to have to have more then one hand to claim superuser account OP don't get everyone riled up because one time it will be for real and it will be the boy who cried wolf.

SABR42 10-26-2007 11:19 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
I apalogize!

I have translated his words:
http://i24.tinypic.com/245j8u8.jpg

http://i21.tinypic.com/fk8a2s.jpg

My questions are:
1) Is it possible or allowed that any player can request the HH with all players' hole cards (2. picture above)?

2) If the answer to 1) is NO, then whether the player who can get the HH with all players' hole cards has an clear advantage?

3)The poster is a big affiliate for this pokerroom and he has good relationship with their manager. Can any pokerroom provide such HH to their friend?

[/ QUOTE ]
Better translation:

Please help analyze a hand, is my fold correct?

Hand history is shown below, I would like to ask, is my fold correct?

I'm showing the results of this hand, I really couldn't imagine such a result, I was supposed to win, but unfortunately I didn't have time to analyze, because I had just joined this table recently.

BPMaR 10-26-2007 11:25 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
just send an email to titan poker or cd poker or something and find out for yourself if they let anyone request it.

Then let me know if its possible and I'll go play there

fatshaft 10-26-2007 11:30 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
Which site supplied the full admin HHs? This is clearly wrong, ipoker skins will send out normal text HHs to players. Either it was a mistake, or this affiliate has pulled strings, either way it's still worng, but hardly crime of the century either.

HAE 10-26-2007 11:30 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
Not a superuser (superuser=can see hole cards while playing)

But it is very wrong for any pokersite to send HH with all the hole cards.

Thomas Luice 10-26-2007 11:36 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I apalogize!

I have translated his words:
http://i24.tinypic.com/245j8u8.jpg

http://i21.tinypic.com/fk8a2s.jpg

My questions are:
1) Is it possible or allowed that any player can request the HH with all players' hole cards (2. picture above)?

2) If the answer to 1) is NO, then whether the player who can get the HH with all players' hole cards has an clear advantage?

3)The poster is a big affiliate for this pokerroom and he has good relationship with their manager. Can any pokerroom provide such HH to their friend?

[/ QUOTE ]
Better translation:

Please help analyze a hand, is my fold correct?

Hand history is shown below, I would like to ask, is my fold correct?

I'm showing the results of this hand, I really couldn't imagine such a result, I was supposed to win, but unfortunately I didn't have time to analyze, because I had just joined this table recently.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

SABR42 10-26-2007 11:42 AM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
You're welcome.

Knightsridge 10-26-2007 12:48 PM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Where is yvessaint when you need a chinaman.

[/ QUOTE ]
chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature, dude.

[/ QUOTE ]

nice

looking 10-27-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
This account: weipk994 is an affiliate of one the ipoker rooms, he lost one hand one day and he is a friend of the ipoker room’s manager.
The manager gave him an “administrator’s view of the hand history”, this is the main point, how could anyone have any special right to get this kind of hand history? That means he could see other ipoker players’ cards and have an unfair advantage over others. That is why I think ipoker should do something about this.
There are also many Chinese poker forums that talk about it, below are some examples:
http://www.preferpoker7.com/forum/read.php?tid=10829
And the ipoker room support said "normally they would give out this kind of administrator’s view of the hand history "

looking 10-27-2007 02:35 PM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
Which site supplied the full admin HHs? This is clearly wrong, ipoker skins will send out normal text HHs to players. Either it was a mistake, or this affiliate has pulled strings, either way it's still worng, but hardly crime of the century either.

[/ QUOTE ]
agree with you!

insyder19 10-27-2007 02:39 PM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
hmmmmmm.

Maybe I should email them as well and ask them if they could page me each time my KK is up against AA as that way I wouldn't have lost 5 buyins this week.

fearless2k 10-27-2007 02:46 PM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
[ QUOTE ]
And the ipoker room support said "normally they would give out this kind of administrator’s view of the hand history "

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF u serious? so we can all email em and ask for the admin HH for our prev session? Even that would give u such a HUGE edge...! wtf i need to findout more aboutthis

1o BoY 10-27-2007 03:07 PM

Re: Another Cheating: Ipoker provided superaccount HH with HOLE CARDS
 
This is all becoming a joke now all this superuser [censored]!!


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