Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

Effective or not, it should be banned because it's terrible from a spectator standpoint. You can't even watch a last second FG anymore without wondering if it counts. You can't even celebrate the made FG until you've gotten confirmation from the announcers that no timeout was called.

Not to mention it's douchey, bush league, etc.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

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I can't wait until the kicker misses the first one and drills the second one on someone.

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BTW, this happened for the Falcons against the Patriots. Koenen missed a 58 yarder, Belichik had called a timeout, Koenen came back and drilled it. However, it was a halftime kick, and the Pats ended up winning the game so no one really noticed.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

god this new kicking thing is beyond annoying

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

Icing the kicker is as shameless as casinos employing "coolers" and Haitian voodoo doll torture. Hurry up with the major motion picture, then please make it stop already...

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

Bump for the Nevada-Hawaii game because it made me change my mind. This is the second time I've seen a coach ruin his team's chances of a last-minute drive by wasting a timeout on this [censored] (first one was Marvin Lewis). If coaches are too [censored] stupid to know when to do this and when not to, I say we leave them all available opportunities to cost their teams the game.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

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Effective or not, it should be banned because it's terrible from a spectator standpoint. You can't even watch a last second FG anymore without wondering if it counts. You can't even celebrate the made FG until you've gotten confirmation from the announcers that no timeout was called.

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I am with you 100%. It has sucked all the fun out of last second field goals.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

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Bump for the Nevada-Hawaii game because it made me change my mind. This is the second time I've seen a coach ruin his team's chances of a last-minute drive by wasting a timeout on this [censored] (first one was Marvin Lewis). If coaches are too [censored] stupid to know when to do this and when not to, I say we leave them all available opportunities to cost their teams the game.

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agreed

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

I actually think it would be more effective to not call the timeout these days, because the kicker would be surprised and perhaps not ready to kick.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

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Bump for the Nevada-Hawaii game because it made me change my mind. This is the second time I've seen a coach ruin his team's chances of a last-minute drive by wasting a timeout on this [censored] (first one was Marvin Lewis). If coaches are too [censored] stupid to know when to do this and when not to, I say we leave them all available opportunities to cost their teams the game.

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agreed

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Ault is a friggin' moron.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

No, it's fine if a coach thinks it can be worth 3 points to a team a certin percentage of the time.

I would like to know the effect of freezing the kicker - any evidence to say it works by producing a lower FG made %?