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homanga 11-19-2007 10:34 PM

JJ MP with UTG Limp
 
Still Early not a lot of reads

Poker Stars, $25 + $2.50 NL Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: 5,200
BTN: 4,815
SB: 2,415
BB: 3,985
UTG: 3,723
UTG+1: 3,625
Hero (UTG+2): 8,200
MP1: 4,890
MP2: 5,424

Pre-Flop: (300) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+2)
UTG calls 200, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 600</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to 4,890 and is All-In</font>, 5 folds, UTG calls 3,523 and is All-In,
Hero ???

bruno_pro 11-19-2007 11:36 PM

Re: JJ MP with UTG Limp
 
i would fold that quickly, but thats just me..

b-komplex 11-19-2007 11:49 PM

Re: JJ MP with UTG Limp
 
Blah. Fold I guess. QQ is a call though.

pokerfreak_21 11-20-2007 02:51 AM

Re: JJ MP with UTG Limp
 
I think i fold QQ here

elcastigador 11-20-2007 03:30 AM

Re: JJ MP with UTG Limp
 
Depending if they have an image of you or not governs my call here. If no reads this is def a tough spot. I probably fold here but have seen this play by UTG made w/ AK before but you're probably behind MP anyways. Blahhh, fold. Nh.

TheFoxNL 11-20-2007 09:42 AM

Re: JJ MP with UTG Limp
 
QQ borderline here
fold

usha 11-20-2007 09:53 AM

Re: JJ MP with UTG Limp
 
fold and raise more pre pls.
I think I need KK+ to call here.

Pokerfarian 11-20-2007 09:56 AM

Re: JJ MP with UTG Limp
 
I'd raise more than 600 with a limper in, ~1K. Then I'm happy to call 1 shove.
As played 2 players have got involved &amp; there's slightly less dead money/overlay &amp; I think you should fold JJ here. I'm think folding QQ here is an error though.

usha 11-20-2007 10:01 AM

Re: JJ MP with UTG Limp
 
Why do you fold JJ but not QQ?
Do you think UTG is calling here with AQ?

Pokerfarian 11-20-2007 10:13 AM

Re: JJ MP with UTG Limp
 
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.128% 37.41% 04.73% 3060402 386620.83 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 27.249% 22.85% 04.40% 1869643 359918.83 { TT+, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 2: 30.623% 27.56% 03.07% 2254675 251005.33 { QQ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.983% 41.23% 02.77% 5568417 374074.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 29.884% 25.94% 03.95% 3503798 533841.50 { TT+, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 2: 26.133% 24.83% 01.31% 3353449 177337.83 { JJ }

These seem fairly okay ranges (UTG being the tighter). Short answer as to why QQ&gt;JJ is that MP1 shoves JJ here most of the time


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