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betgo 11-13-2007 12:09 PM

77 OTB, short stack UTG limper
 
This is another hand from the PFX HHs by a 2+2 pro. $300 on Stars.

Blinds 150/300/15. Donk UTG with 2500 limps. You have 7200 on the button. Both blinds have you covered. What is your play?

PSU046 11-13-2007 12:29 PM

Re: 77 OTB, short stack UTG limper
 
I'd say put in about 3bb raise and try to get isolated against the UTG. his limp probably puts him on some sc or low pp so i think you have good odds against him and you'll probably force him all in with his short stack.

luckychewy 11-13-2007 12:58 PM

Re: 77 OTB, short stack UTG limper
 
4x.

furfur 11-13-2007 05:59 PM

Re: 77 OTB, short stack UTG limper
 
raise to 1200 to isolate and fold to reraise from one of the blinds. Seems pretty standard.

burningyen 11-13-2007 06:23 PM

Re: 77 OTB, short stack UTG limper
 
Mostly depends on what kind of donk, but my default would be to fold.

DDBeast 11-14-2007 01:33 AM

Re: 77 OTB, short stack UTG limper
 
Fold, really? I probably 4bb it, but shoving doesn't seem too bad as long as the blinds are reasonably tight.

Bakes 11-14-2007 03:16 AM

Re: 77 OTB, short stack UTG limper
 
shoving seems awful. i would probably make it 1k.

betgo 11-14-2007 05:22 PM

Re: 77 OTB, short stack UTG limper
 
Hero actually pushed and got called by one of the blinds with AJo.

The push seemed a little reckless to me as the short stack could be trapping plus the blinds could have big hands. I would probably limp behind or fold.

burningyen 11-14-2007 06:26 PM

Re: 77 OTB, short stack UTG limper
 
Pushing does seem pretty bad. If I just sat down at this table I would fold. But if UTG previously showed any sign that he's bad enough to limp-fold for 1/8th of his stack, then I'd be comfortable raising to 1k or so.

riverspecialist 11-14-2007 10:00 PM

Re: 77 OTB, short stack UTG limper
 
i call here. are you making this fold if this were cash but everything else is the same? Maybe i just flop more sets than everyone else. And yeah, it depends on what kind of donk this is, but i mostly limp.


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