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Carmine 10-16-2007 05:16 PM

How do we figure the odds of making this runner/runner draw
 
Hero holds AA
Opponent holds T8

Flop: 79J

On the turn I need to hit and Ace or have the board pair then I need the other outcome on the river (IE if and Ace hits the turn I need another ace on river or board to pair. If board pairs on the turn I need to hit same paired card to hit river or an ace.)

It gets confusing for me because the number of outs change depending on which event occurs first.

BruceZ 10-16-2007 06:26 PM

Re: How do we figure the odds of making this runner/runner draw
 
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Hero holds AA
Opponent holds T8

Flop: 79J

On the turn I need to hit and Ace or have the board pair then I need the other outcome on the river (IE if and Ace hits the turn I need another ace on river or board to pair. If board pairs on the turn I need to hit same paired card to hit river or an ace.)

It gets confusing for me because the number of outs change depending on which event occurs first.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's easiest to think of the 2-card combinations you need, and the number of ways to make each one. They are:

A7 (2*3 = 6)
A9 (2*3 = 6)
AJ (2*3 = 6)
AA (1)
77 (3)
99 (3)
JJ (3)
========
total = 28

Total possible 2-card combinations with 45 cards remaining is C(45,2) = 45*44/2 = 990, and 27/990 =~ 2.8%. Since 990 is close to 1000, you can get an accurate result in your head just by counting the hands and moving the decimal point. Note that there are also 9 hands that tie (T8).


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