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mack848 05-27-2007 06:10 AM

NL $600. Big bluff with AQ vs. a TAG regular (hand I viewed)
 
9 players, Villain has $740, Hero covers

Hero has no real read of villain, except that he is likely to be a TAG regular


Hero has A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in MP

UTG limps $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $27, 3 folds, SB Villain calls, UTG calls

Flop 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, $84)

SB bets $30, UTG folds, Hero raises to $100, SB re-raises to $170, Hero 4bets to $360

Thoughts?

CopTHIS 05-27-2007 06:22 AM

Re: NL $600. Big bluff with AQ vs. a TAG regular (hand I viewed)
 
Why do you think he's a TAG regular, especially with that betting pattern? Looks totally spewtastic to me.

RipperTEQ 05-27-2007 06:34 AM

Re: NL $600. Big bluff with AQ vs. a TAG regular (hand I viewed)
 
Okay, UTG limps...seems like pocket pair to me. Is he really going to lay that down with $190 into a $700+ pot? I think he'd be pretty crazy, so I think it is a bad bluff personally. Real question is not whether to fold, but whether to call or shove.

BobboFitos 05-27-2007 07:13 AM

Re: NL $600. Big bluff with AQ vs. a TAG regular (hand I viewed)
 
hands like this demonstrate the meaning of "tag fish".

just bc you play a somewhat tight game doesnt mean you dont spew horribly.

BlueBear 05-27-2007 07:40 AM

Re: NL $600. Big bluff with AQ vs. a TAG regular (hand I viewed)
 
A 4-bet is only good if you have some fold equity. (Unless there's some ultra-deep multi-levelled thinking going on, doesn't seem to be the case)

mack848 05-27-2007 09:42 AM

Re: NL $600. Big bluff with AQ vs. a TAG regular (hand I viewed)
 
This was a hand I viewed on a video made by a $25/$50 FR player.

His logic for the 4bet was based on 2 assumptions, as far as I can gather:

1. He put the SB on a low/mid pair to call from SB. He expected a re-raise from the blinds with AA-QQ. In fact, his commentary was along the lines of " I know he has 44-JJ here". He had been playing aggressively and felt that this guy was making a play on him with the 3-bet.

2. This guy was a $3/$6 regular who wouldn't have got to that level if he couldn't lay down JJ here to an 'obvious' AA/KK.

All I can say is, he appeared very confident of a fold and that his play was clearly the correct option. I don't know if it influenced him, but Villain took a very long time to make the 3bet.

Renton 05-27-2007 02:00 PM

Re: NL $600. Big bluff with AQ vs. a TAG regular (hand I viewed)
 
very ugly. When would you ever have AA/KK/88 here?

just call and raise him on the turn if you want to get tricky.

Renton 05-27-2007 02:01 PM

Re: NL $600. Big bluff with AQ vs. a TAG regular (hand I viewed)
 
and i watched the video.

I mean, as played the 4bet is decent i guess, its just that I hate the raise to begin with.

RED FACE 05-27-2007 02:27 PM

Re: NL $600. Big bluff with AQ vs. a TAG regular (hand I viewed)
 
Please post a link to that video.

thanks a lot

Renton 05-27-2007 02:56 PM

Re: NL $600. Big bluff with AQ vs. a TAG regular (hand I viewed)
 
its cardrunners and it costs moneyz


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