50NL - 3bet SCs, does anyone shove this turn?
 

Just sat down and I want to establish my crazy image before I settle into the grind.

Got a decent amount of hands on villian and he is 22/19/3.




Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $48.10
BB: $70.05
UTG: $58.75
MP: $119.00
CO: $60.65
Hero (BTN): $50.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.75</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $5.25

Flop: ($14.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.50</font>, MP calls $12.50

Turn: ($39.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero shoves or checks?

Re: 50NL - 3bet SCs, does anyone shove this turn?
 

No, what are you trying to get him to fold? His range hit this board hard. Take the free card, you have some good disguised outs.

Re: 50NL - 3bet SCs, does anyone shove this turn?
 

I shove with a gazillion of outs and the money in the pot especially if you want to establish a crazy image.
If he has AA;TT;77 you still have 30% equity and I'd kinda expect him to do the shoving with a set there.

Re: 50NL - 3bet SCs, does anyone shove this turn?
 

anybody else?

Re: 50NL - 3bet SCs, does anyone shove this turn?
 

I think I like a check behind here. You're drawing to probably 9 hearts and 4 6'es, cant really count the jacks as an out anymore and I don't think you have alot of fold equity here.

Re: 50NL - 3bet SCs, does anyone shove this turn?
 

I dont think yo have much FE. Check and own him with the 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the river.

Re: 50NL - 3bet SCs, does anyone shove this turn?
 

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I dont think yo have much FE. Check and own him with the 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the river.

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J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] would be more ownage, unless he has AhKh offcorse [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: 50NL - 3bet SCs, does anyone shove this turn?
 

ok...I checked behind..then the river bricked and he shoved.

So I felt like he wouldn't have folded to my shove...but I still wanted some input as this would be my standard line in most pots but since this was 3bet I wasn't sure.

Re: 50NL - 3bet SCs, does anyone shove this turn?
 

He had AQ/ set I'm guessing. Checking behind is awesome, because his range for calling 3-et and flop bet is such that if you do connect (ESP with an off suit 6) you stack him for sure. I think you stack him with any of your outs tbh.

Re: 50NL - 3bet SCs, does anyone shove this turn?
 

Checking turn is good here because I think he bets the river like 100% of the time if you check the turn so if you do hit one of your outs it increases your value from the hand. Esp if a low heart hits or 6 clubs. He probably figures you for JJ/KK. I think he never folds to a push, to call your 3 bet and flop bet oop I think he is pretty damn strong here - 1010, AK. Zero fe.