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jurrasstoil 11-28-2007 05:13 PM

5.50$ stars TT, fold overpair?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP3 (t8080)
CO (t9997)
Button (t15365)
Hero (t14461)
BB (t9660)
UTG (t4675)
UTG+1 (t95)
MP1 (t4292)
MP2 (t7069)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Button calls t400, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t800.

Flop: (t2600) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t4000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t13236</font>, Button calls t9236.

Turn: (t29072) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t29072) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t29072

Was my play ok? Fold the flop maybe against the rereraise?

Thanks in advance.

DeuceSeven 11-28-2007 05:39 PM

Re: 5.50$ stars TT, fold overpair?
 
I'm in favor of raising to 1.6k preflop because you and the button are pretty deep and I wouldn't mind ending the hand now being oop. I don't understand the check/raise unless villain is laggy post flop, I prefer to lead out, it would be a sin to let a spade or big card hit the turn for free. This low you could be up against tp, 99-77, fd, sd enough to put it in here. His weak post flop bet in a vacume usually means villain has a draw, nothing, or something like 44-22. You check raise, then he reraises, at this point he either has a draw or trips, I ship it.

TJ Eckleburg12 11-28-2007 05:45 PM

Re: 5.50$ stars TT, fold overpair?
 
I think we need to pay attention to his flop 3-bet.

We have more than 30 BB, and we're OOP. Yes it's an overpair, yes he can conceivably do this with a 6 or a flush draw or something... but at the end of the day it's a marginal holding in a dangerous spot up against the ONE guy we don't want to mess with unless we're monstrous.

Plus we're OOP. I hate it, and I probably couldn't do this on the felt, but I think we need to c/r-fold to a 3-bet, because the 3-bet commits stacks, and we don't want to play for stacks here.

TJ Eckleburg12 11-28-2007 05:47 PM

Re: 5.50$ stars TT, fold overpair?
 
I also don't think our 4-bet has much fold equity.

Maybe you could check-raise more than pot instead of less than pot to see if he REALLY wants to commit, and let him know you're not just check-raising a flop bet.

But still fold to the 3-bet. You're betting is screaming overpair anyway.

levAA 11-28-2007 05:55 PM

Re: 5.50$ stars TT, fold overpair?
 
From his preflop play I would set him on a PP or SC.

His flop-bet is weak, so raising is fine. BTW I also think that you should have bet this flop. So the only hands I would be affraid of are 66,55 and maybe JJ. But I think most of the time this is a draw, so I think you have to push as you did.

Aver-aging 11-28-2007 05:56 PM

Re: 5.50$ stars TT, fold overpair?
 
I'm with TJ on this one, I think folding to the three-bet is a good line, and I would have preferred raising out and three betting him if he re-raised us, and folding if he pushed.

TJ Eckleburg12 11-28-2007 06:03 PM

Re: 5.50$ stars TT, fold overpair?
 
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I'm with TJ on this one, I think folding to the three-bet is a good line, and I would have preferred raising out and three betting him if he re-raised us, and folding if he pushed.

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That's a really good point that I didn't even consider.

We probably have more fold equity with a c-bet/3-bet than with a check raise.

drcapn 11-28-2007 06:03 PM

Re: 5.50$ stars TT, fold overpair?
 
Interesting. He's got a big stack, so presumably you should know something about how he got it. Also, limping from the button is rather odd. TJ makes a good point about the stack sizes here. That being said, at $5 i've seen this be KQs and A9 plenty of times. If I saw him being stupid to get that big stack, I'd definitely look him up here. If not, I wouldn't.


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