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Irish Mafia 10-23-2007 01:22 PM

I 3bet a fish in pos., he full pots the river...
 
Villain is ChunJung. He runs at 27/7.8/2.9. He's a big loser - well I only have 3000 hands on him - but he's down 11k. In my limited experience w/ him he practically NEVER folds to a 3bet. What the hell is up w/ his river bet. Oh, he used about 30 seconds of his timebank on the turn; and he also timed down b4 calling PF.

Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $1,149
CO: $967
Hero (BTN): $1,232.45
SB: $2,429.50
BB: $1,117

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $30</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $125</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $95

Flop: ($265) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($265) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $175</font>, UTG calls $175

River: ($615) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $590</font>, Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Praetor 10-23-2007 01:24 PM

Re: I 3bet a fish in pos., he full pots the river...
 
wierd hand, i would fold.

whorasaurus 10-23-2007 01:26 PM

Re: I 3bet a fish in pos., he full pots the river...
 
fold almost always.

Laetus 10-23-2007 01:26 PM

Re: I 3bet a fish in pos., he full pots the river...
 
Why did you check flop when he have such a wide range? I would probably fold river - even though his line is very weird.

Irish Mafia 10-23-2007 01:32 PM

Re: I 3bet a fish in pos., he full pots the river...
 
By the way, to put you further into the mind of this bozo - look at this hand that just happened at another table.

Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $1,337
SB: $1,663.90
BB: $497
UTG: $1,000
MP: $1,257
CO: $398.50

Pre-Flop: dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $30</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $30, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $120</font>, MP calls $90, Hero folds

Flop: ($365) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $180</font>, MP calls $180,

Turn: ($725) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $197 and is All-In</font>, MP calls $197

River: ($1,119) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,119 Pot ($3 Rake)
[i]BB showed K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) [i]MP showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (Ace Jack high)

JFsports 10-23-2007 01:36 PM

Re: I 3bet a fish in pos., he full pots the river...
 
I'd fold it, looks exactly like how a moron would play teh Kings, or maybe 99.
Second hand is kinda standard for an uberfish tbh!! It's when they start betting big that I get scared

WelshChip 10-23-2007 01:43 PM

Re: I 3bet a fish in pos., he full pots the river...
 
hi 99

Triumph36 10-23-2007 01:54 PM

Re: I 3bet a fish in pos., he full pots the river...
 
if you don't know how he will react to a flop check, don't do it imo

Irish Mafia 10-23-2007 02:21 PM

Re: I 3bet a fish in pos., he full pots the river...
 
[ QUOTE ]
if you don't know how he will react to a flop check, don't do it imo

[/ QUOTE ]

So you think there is nothing to be gained from a flop check? I guess my thinking at the time was that it gives him a chance to bluff later in the hand... but the more I play w/ him today, the more evident it is that he is the biggest station ever - so i guess I was wrong.

d2themfi 10-23-2007 02:29 PM

Re: I 3bet a fish in pos., he full pots the river...
 
I think he rarely plays a worse hand this way. He can show up with a ton of hands you beat, so easy river fold.

But I also think betting the flop esp with the flush and straight draws out is best


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