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Maunzekater 11-19-2007 08:33 PM

25NL: AK TPTK on very ugly board vs huge fish OOP, what now?
 
That was the most difficult hand in my last session, advice needed.

Villain is our beloved and well know station, running at 70/8/0.8 over a sample of 60 hands. WTSD 40%.

Please tell me what you would do (and why) if you were in this situation.

Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $39.67
BB: $33.87
UTG: $29.32
CO: $36.05
BTN: $27.11

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, BB calls $1.25, CO folds

Flop: ($3.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $4, Hero ?</font>

shark_fishin 11-19-2007 08:35 PM

Re: 25NL: AK TPTK on very ugly board vs huge fish OOP, what now?
 
i think i would fold flop tbh, there is lots of 2pair combinations and his af is too low to be bluffing alot.

Maunzekater 11-19-2007 08:38 PM

Re: 25NL: AK TPTK on very ugly board vs huge fish OOP, what now?
 
True, but on the other hand there a tons of Kx combos in his range. I know that he will most likely not fold top pair, so calling might be an option.

edit: Kx combos that don't make 2pair, of course.

eastern motors 11-19-2007 09:20 PM

Re: 25NL: AK TPTK on very ugly board vs huge fish OOP, what now?
 
I would call and check to him if you don't improve on the turn. I think you're probably behind but this guy is offering huge implied odds. If you don't improve and he pots the turn, fold.

Have you seen him raise before?

MrWooster 11-19-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 25NL: AK TPTK on very ugly board vs huge fish OOP, what now?
 
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I would call and check to him if you don't improve on the turn. I think you're probably behind but this guy is offering huge implied odds. If you don't improve and he pots the turn, fold.

Have you seen him raise before?

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How exactly do you expect to improve? If an A comes, any T gives him a strait. If a K comes, any 2pair on the flop is now a FH.... The only possible way to improve you hand is if a T comes, in which case you could easily be splitting....

This is very villain dependent, but I think if you just call flop and check to him on the turn he is going to be again and you will have to fold, so I don't think a flop fold is terrible here, but I think it is a very tough spot.

Maunzekater 11-19-2007 09:47 PM

Re: 25NL: AK TPTK on very ugly board vs huge fish OOP, what now?
 
I can't remember if villain raised before, but usually i notice it when players do something different from what their stats sugggest, so i don't think he raised a preflop aggressor before.

MrWooster, you are right about the A, but if i pick up a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], i have 12 outs to the nuts - and maybe i already have the best hand. Obviously, villain doesn't know to size his bets properly and i will most likely get the correct odds to call his turn bet.

edit: will post what happened tomorrow, 3:00 AM here


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