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yegon 11-25-2007 06:48 PM

NL100 - dumping AA?
 
Is this a spot where I fold AA? Or is the board too drawheavy for that? On the other hand the minraise does not look like it wants us to fold.

CO: 94/14/4.6 over 60 hands
UTG: no stats yet

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $99.50
SB: $189.79
BB: $102.93
UTG: $237.78
Hero (MP): $93.50
CO: $97.42

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, CO calls $5, 3 folds, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($16.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, CO calls $12, <font color="red">UTG raises to $24</font>, Hero ?

Chaos_ult 11-25-2007 06:50 PM

Re: NL100 - dumping AA?
 
um no

Paul Thomson 11-25-2007 06:52 PM

Re: NL100 - dumping AA?
 
auto-push

spivey 11-25-2007 06:57 PM

Re: NL100 - dumping AA?
 
Please god don't fold this.

yegon 11-25-2007 07:33 PM

Re: NL100 - dumping AA?
 
obv I never fold against CO ( who had Ks2c btw. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

but what do I put UTG on? pf limp/call range is heavily weighted to SCs and small and middle pairs. From that range a flush draw could profitably play passively - no need to minraise. Other than that I can only see him doing this with 77,88,87.

Up-grey-de 11-25-2007 07:35 PM

Re: NL100 - dumping AA?
 
IŽd call and check turn. If he keeps on firing Id probably fold with no history. To everyone who says push, do you think that this is a bluff? It REALLY looks like a set to me.

Chaos_ult 11-25-2007 07:36 PM

Re: NL100 - dumping AA?
 
His range is probably like any decent king, any straight draw, any flush draw etc etc

You've got lots of equity vs. that range.

Folding would be a big mistake

Up-grey-de 11-25-2007 07:39 PM

Re: NL100 - dumping AA?
 
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His range is probably like any decent king, any straight draw, any flush draw etc etc

You've got lots of equity vs. that range.

Folding would be a big mistake

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Do you really think he is minraising 2 players UTG with a draw? I think there is a much bigger possibility that he is holding a set.
Id be very cautious here until i know more about him.

rsxpunk 11-25-2007 07:43 PM

Re: NL100 - dumping AA?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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His range is probably like any decent king, any straight draw, any flush draw etc etc

You've got lots of equity vs. that range.

Folding would be a big mistake

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Do you really think he is minraising 2 players UTG with a draw? I think there is a much bigger possibility that he is holding a set.
Id be very cautious here until i know more about him.

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if by this you mean auto push until you know more about him then its correct.

Pokerdemic 11-26-2007 12:42 AM

Re: NL100 - dumping AA?
 
[ QUOTE ]
His range is probably like any decent king, any straight draw, any flush draw etc etc

You've got lots of equity vs. that range.

Folding would be a big mistake

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So are we assuming villain is braindead? If he called with a SC, wouldn't the purpose of raising a draw on the flop be to gain FE for whatever equity the draw had? And why would he minraise with any K when the size of the raise offers very little protection? A minraise here with a draw or a K makes very little sense at all.

On such a draw heavy board, a minraise here doesn't make a whole lot of sense if he has a set or 2pair,but it seems to make more sense than a draw or any K.

I suck in these spots, so I want to know why this is an auto-push.


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