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rockin 02-18-2007 05:45 PM

A play I usually don\'t make!!!
 
I've been playing very TAG. Open/raiser has been betting light with garbage somewhat frequently. CO knows this. SB knows this and is getting desperate. He could easily have an under pair here, but based on reads, his most likely holding is a big Ace, probably AK. ONE shove and then a slightly larger isolation shove, I felt would eliminate the first 2 players espeically since I have been playing tight. A lot of dead money in the pot and most likely a 60/40. Thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) handconverter.com

SB (t1717)
Hero (t2675)
UTG (t1565)
UTG+1 (t4770)
MP1 (t5685)
MP2 (t1545)
CO (t6740)
Button (t4015)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1717</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2675</font>...


Final Pot: t4992

Cornell Fiji 02-18-2007 05:55 PM

Re: A play I usually don\'t make!!!
 
This play is -EV and unnecessary

RebuyFoolAA 02-18-2007 06:00 PM

Re: A play I usually don\'t make!!!
 
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This play is -EV and unnecessary

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agreed

rockin 02-18-2007 06:08 PM

Re: A play I usually don\'t make!!!
 
Okay assuming we feel confident the first 2 players will fold, and you know SB's range is rather wide, what then?

Forgot to mention, blinds going up to 100/200 in about 4 hands too. This is a 180/4 also.

RebuyFoolAA 02-18-2007 06:11 PM

Re: A play I usually don\'t make!!!
 
at best 60/40 to be left with 900 chips...not for me

rockin 02-18-2007 06:22 PM

Re: A play I usually don\'t make!!!
 
2,467 in the pot. I effectively have to put in 1567 in the pot. Just did the math. It's about 63/37. Just pokerstoved also.

657,524,736 games 0.005 secs 131,504,947,200 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 63.962% 63.67% 00.29% 418650216 1913280.00 { 66+, AJs+, AJo+ }
Hand 1: 36.038% 35.75% 00.29% 235047960 1913280.00 { T9s }

Just barely -EV, unless you worsen his range with 5% bluffs or SC's etc... Add to that the first 2 players have to fold. It's only close if the first 2 fold (they did BTW).

Just curious. With having to react pretty quickly and doing some slight math in my head at the time, it seemed more +EV. Definitely closer than I thought.

RebuyFoolAA 02-18-2007 06:25 PM

Re: A play I usually don\'t make!!!
 
i dont understand the point of playing this hand

rockin 02-18-2007 06:28 PM

Re: A play I usually don\'t make!!!
 
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i dont understand the point of playing this hand

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LOL. I was looking for +EV edges and as I said in my prevsious post, all the dead money in the pot, this seemed +EV. I will happily take a 60/40. If the pot is offering me 70/30 etc...

RebuyFoolAA 02-18-2007 06:33 PM

Re: A play I usually don\'t make!!!
 
the chips u have in this situation arent enough to make a play here...+EV or not...on a side note i hope UTG+1 has 910hh and calls for +EV :-P

rockin 02-18-2007 06:35 PM

Re: A play I usually don\'t make!!!
 
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the chips u have in this situation arent enough to make a play here...+EV or not...

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WHAT?


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