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bigmac366 10-13-2007 05:51 PM

AA and i fold the turn HU
 
no reads, i'm hating the turn raise more and more.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG (poster) calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

DVDA4life 10-13-2007 05:58 PM

Re: AA and i fold the turn HU
 
with no reads I really dislike the turn fold. We are drawing very live against 2 pair, and villain could easily play spewtarded on such a draw-heavy board given that we have no previous read of his play.

RudeboyOi 10-13-2007 06:04 PM

Re: AA and i fold the turn HU
 
ewwww...

call 3b, call non5, non9, nonT river

frenchpignouf 10-13-2007 06:19 PM

Re: AA and i fold the turn HU
 
It is a bad fold and it is very bad for the metagame.

Gurravasa 10-14-2007 02:41 AM

Re: AA and i fold the turn HU
 
I hate the turn fold more than the turn raise.

NinaWilliams 10-14-2007 02:44 AM

Re: AA and i fold the turn HU
 
I dont think the turn raise is bad. Turn fold is horrible for a bunch of reasons. One of which is that you have 8 outs very frequently.

EDIT: those reasons are that the board is draw heavy and he could be pushing a combo draw or "put you on a draw" and be pushing A8 or worse. Sorry, my post above didnt come off very well [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

waffle 10-14-2007 02:44 AM

Re: AA and i fold the turn HU
 
Let's read your own hand. What is your range after you raise utg, raise this donk, then raise the turn? How much of it are you folding after the 3bet? If you fold AA on this innocuous card, I assert you are folding too much.


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