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GTL 09-13-2006 04:33 PM

AQ reraised, deep, and oop. FUN!!
 
I have been 3-betting preflop a decent amount. Villain has been opening fairly light and up untill now has generally been folding to my 3-bets. He has called them maybe once and then folded to a continuation bet. Villain has been playing solid and we have only tangled in one large pot where he called down a 3-barrell bluff with top pair queen kicker on a fairly scary board.

This is such a tough spot for me on the turn. I'm not sure I like my bet size here or even like a bet at all. When I made the bet I decided to shut down if it was called but I'm not sure this is the best line here. Comments on all streets are welcome.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($2603)
Button ($1711.25)
Hero ($2035.50)
BB ($1069)
UTG ($1114)
MP ($815)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $115</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $80.

Flop: ($240) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $240</font>, CO calls $240.

Turn: ($720) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $500</font>, CO calls $500.

River: ($1720) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $1720</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $3440

09-13-2006 04:42 PM

Re: AQ reraised, deep, and oop. FUN!!
 
check turn

GTL 09-13-2006 04:46 PM

Re: AQ reraised, deep, and oop. FUN!!
 
check fold grimm? I think I agree with you that a check here is correct. It just feels so weak to give up on the hand here.

Stinger88 09-13-2006 07:15 PM

Re: AQ reraised, deep, and oop. FUN!!
 
check/call, he will often check back though

ahnuld 09-13-2006 07:41 PM

Re: AQ reraised, deep, and oop. FUN!!
 
lead flop for alot less than pot.

BeNice 09-13-2006 09:39 PM

Re: AQ reraised, deep, and oop. FUN!!
 
I don't like to reraise preflop oop with AQ. I've been doing it more often lately though but I have a few questions.

What's the point of leading on a flop like this?
- You probably won't get paid by a worst hand
- if you bet too small you'll get raised often (I know I would raise pretty often) and I don't like playing the rest of the hand w AQ oop without the lead.

Are you just protecting your hand? Value betting/getting info? Or is this all about shania and meta-game?

Nezzar 09-13-2006 10:44 PM

Re: AQ reraised, deep, and oop. FUN!!
 
I think its played fine. I might even go for a little value on river as well, but since u checked i think its also fine to fold against a PSB here. If you C/C turn u should also C/C river wich might cost you more....

GTL 09-13-2006 10:56 PM

Re: AQ reraised, deep, and oop. FUN!!
 
ahnuld, what is the reasoning for leading the flop for less than pot?

BeNice, a major reason that I lead the flop is because I have been making continuation bets after 3 betting 80 to 90 percent of the time and I feel that it is possible that villain could peel one off with a hand I'm ahead of.

On the river I only have about 1200 left. Does anyone like a shove here? I decided on the turn that if I wanted to get the whole stack in I would c/c turn and river. I felt like if I wanted to give up, the best line was to fire the turn then check fold the river. Is this flawed logic?

alphatmw 09-13-2006 11:21 PM

Re: AQ reraised, deep, and oop. FUN!!
 
how often do you guys see the river as a bluff from CO?

GTL 09-13-2006 11:24 PM

Re: AQ reraised, deep, and oop. FUN!!
 
I felt like I am going to see AK or better a very large percentage of the time here from villain alpha.


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