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Megenoita 08-18-2006 07:19 PM

I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
 
Recently I was playing 3/6 and I had 33, raised, a tag IP called, and a fish called. The flop came 8 9 3 r and the fish donked a good portion of his stack, I raised to 240, the tag pushed, and the fish called. I put the tag on 88 or 99, couldn't see why he'd push a dry draw. I folded, and he had KK.

Lately, I've been seeing that I fold too much in general, but I think I'm not bad overall.

Villain in this hand is 18/12 tight, solid tag frankubrik or something like that. He is 2.2 and multitables with me a lot. My impression of him is not that he gambles a lot, but that he plays really solid.

Thoughts on the fold? My flop raise was actually purposefully so that I could ascertain whether I was beat. Against most guys, I just push the flop initially.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

CO ($787.58)
Button ($380.16)
SB ($1082.87)
BB ($512.67)
UTG ($2795.18)
Hero ($1007.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $21, SB (poster) calls $18, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($69) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Villain bets $50, Hero raises to $190, fold, villain raises to $350, Hero folds.

gimmenutz 08-18-2006 07:27 PM

Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
 
i changed my mind

u should slowplay until river then bet 2/3 pot

Megenoita 08-18-2006 07:29 PM

Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
 
wtf...oh, 3 posts, never mind.

Paul Thomson 08-18-2006 07:32 PM

Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
 
I think you've gotta call. He could be doing this with the nut flush draw.

Megenoita 08-18-2006 07:38 PM

Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
 
By call, then, you mean push? And what nut flush draw? And why would a flush draw not push after my raise to get more FE? Why would it small raise? It "knows" I'm calling with whatever I raised.

Big_Jim 08-18-2006 07:38 PM

Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
 
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Against most guys, I just push the flop initially.

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Flop: ($69)

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Hero ($1007.55)

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Uhm....

I don't mind this fold, but I would go broke, because I never fold sets.

I think that I would have to just call though, because I think even an idiot can get away from top two when you 4-bet here.

If a scare card comes, you might get to showdown cheap, or you might be able to get away from your hand.

scorer 08-18-2006 07:42 PM

Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
 
first, why are you re raising his bet so much on the flop from 50 to 190. His re raise could be trying to get you off the pot. Although i don't play these limits his set of 5's or set of 7's which you think he might have doesn't do this in this hand. As one poster said he could have the nut flush draw like A/Q hearts for example.

Big_Jim 08-18-2006 07:43 PM

Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
 
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why are you re raising his bet so much on the flop from 50 to 190

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It's not even a pot sized raise, and the board is super draw heavy.

jrbick 08-18-2006 07:44 PM

Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
 
M,

Like we discussed before, you can't see him here w/ a hand we beat except for OESD/FD. Looks like the nuts, overset, or we're racing. However, this is me responding w/o the greatest feel for this player, how your table was playing, how you were playing, etc etc.

jrbick

Big_Jim 08-18-2006 07:46 PM

Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
 
Folding Bottom Set


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