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Brocken 11-02-2007 08:03 PM

Overpair - silly 3b on flop? can I call?
 
Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $125.58
UTG: $20.66
Hero (BTN): $27.93
SB: $24.15

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Qhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1

Flop: ($3.85) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 9http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $6.50</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $124.33 and is All-In</font>, Hero ...

Had no stats on villain at the time.

slush420 11-02-2007 08:37 PM

Re: Overpair - silly 3b on flop? can I call?
 
just go all in with your flop 3bet. min raising there never gets any folding equity at all. as played you must call his push

takingcontrol 11-02-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Overpair - silly 3b on flop? can I call?
 
usually when i see a massive stacks at these levels they're the types that overvalue top pair hands. I gamble here.

also is minraising his flop twobet really that bad ? - it gets us pot committed and makes him more likely to call with a jack here.

Arcturus 11-02-2007 11:22 PM

Re: Overpair - silly 3b on flop? can I call?
 
I don't like the 3-bet. First off, he check-raised you, which is an indication of a strong hand (usually.) Second, when you come over top of his re-raise, you are saying, "I'm committed to the pot no matter what else happens." Unfortunately, after you do that, he is telling you to bring it on. You put yourself to a really tough decision by not deciding ahead of time what to do.

I would think you are crushed here. Fold.

Profish2285 11-02-2007 11:42 PM

Re: Overpair - silly 3b on flop? can I call?
 
I think I just flat call his c/r and re evaluate on the turn. There is no flush draw here, so unless he has QT there arent that many draws. I think the flop looks more draw heavy than it really is if that makes sense. Like if a T comes off I dont think it really changes much, Im not sure what 8x hands he has there.

Lego05 11-03-2007 12:32 AM

Re: Overpair - silly 3b on flop? can I call?
 
3 bet/folding would be pretty ridiculous. And you're geting like 3 to 1...as played call.


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