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Bruce D 05-30-2007 02:53 AM

Try this for some hand reading.
 
This is a six max game.

UTG 50/5/0.38/134
MP 48/15/2.14/21
Hero is on btn
SB has played very agressively since he sat down. He is 66/33/4.00/6
BB just sat and posted his bb.

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.



Flop: (10 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.

My first call probably should have been a fold, but I thought, there are 17 sb in the pot. I am getting 8.5 to 1 to catch a BDFD and there is a slight possibility I am still ahead. BB could be raising a draw, also trying to win the pot right there as the pot is big. My second call is a no brainer.

Depending on the participation, I may just endup posting all the streets, but it makes it a bit easier to come to conclusions once all the action is complete.

Gib 05-30-2007 02:56 AM

Re: Try this for some hand reading.
 
I'd raise PF, as played I'd 3bet the flop.

00Snitch 05-30-2007 03:00 AM

Re: Try this for some hand reading.
 
Raise preflop. 3-bet flop.

SB can have TT+, AT, KT. 88.

UTG: 88/TT/33 (ldo). J9. AT, perhaps AT-JT.

MP: Probably roughly the same as UTG, with a little less weight on TT.

00Snitch 05-30-2007 03:01 AM

Re: Try this for some hand reading.
 
I replied before I read Gib's! Honest!

00Snitch 05-30-2007 03:03 AM

Re: Try this for some hand reading.
 
I just noticed this is 0.05/0.10. My ranges are probably too tight. You could add maybe some 99 in there. and some BDSD and BDFD combos like Axs and KJ and stuff.

Oh and QJ.

Maybe 76.

I'm not very good at this [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Bruce D 05-30-2007 03:27 AM

Re: Try this for some hand reading.
 
What range do you put BB on?

Xhad 05-30-2007 08:33 AM

Re: Try this for some hand reading.
 
[ QUOTE ]
What range do you put BB on?

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The monsters you are incorrectly worried about already, OESDs, any T, probably some eights.

Bruce D 05-30-2007 12:54 PM

Re: Try this for some hand reading.
 
Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, <font color="red">SB raises </font> , BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.



Flop: (10 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img](5 players)
SB bets, <font color="red"> BB raises </font>, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, <font color="red"> SB 3-bets </font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.

The turn drops and the board is T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

SB bets, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="red">MP raises </font>, Hero folds, <font color="red"> SB 3bets </font>, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="red"> MP caps </font>, all call.

edited for action, readability and playability.

bozlax 05-30-2007 01:03 PM

Re: Try this for some hand reading.
 
[ QUOTE ]
My first call probably should have been a fold...

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At nickel-dime fishmax? That you even thought this should lead to your immediate banishment. Raise pf, trey that flop. 3bet &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt ; cold-call &gt;&gt;infinity&gt;&gt; fold.

bozlax 05-30-2007 01:06 PM

Re: Try this for some hand reading.
 
Hmmmm, this is starting to look like a play-along. Very sneaky, Bruce.

On the turn folding is fine. You have 2nd pair, no back-door draws, your two-pair-or-trips outs are dirty, and a new player is showing aggression now that one draw came in. Let it go, even in a ginormous pot, there's no way you're still best, and very damned unlikely you'll be best at showdown.


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