UB $215 river spot w/ two pair
 

Villain is on the stationy side, SaintNOO. I have 4200, he covers with 5200

Preflop at 30/60 I raise to 165 in EMP with T9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I get two callers, one in LP (villain), one in blinds


Flop 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to me, I bet 400 into around 500, Villain calls quickly, BB folds

Turn 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I decide to bet again for 900 into around 1300, he thinks maybe 3 seconds and calls again

River 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Pot is 3100 and I have approx 2750 behind.

Plan?

Re: UB $215 river spot w/ two pair
 

I can't automatically give him an 8 so I check/call to get more off of missed flush draws and a lot of 1 pair hands fold to a river bet.

Regards,
Woodguy

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I can't automatically give him an 8 so I check/call to get more off of missed flush draws and a lot of 1 pair hands fold to a river bet.

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Agree, except I'm not convinced that I'm folding to all river leads, especially if it looks like some sort of blocking bet.

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except I'm not convinced that I'm folding to all river leads

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That's fair, he did call him a station.

Since he's a station betting probably nets a little bit more chips overall.

C/C has the added benefit of losing less to an 8 as well as getting something from a missed flush......they are probably pretty close.

Blockish bet is probably better since stations NEVER bluff raise here, but a tough player can bluff raise here.

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why aren't we just shoving so that J9 can call?

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why aren't we just shoving so that J9 can call?

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I agree, he's a station shove for value. Given our read, I think we lose more value by checking and letting him check back his one pair hands than we gain from checking and letting him bluff his missed draw.

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why aren't we just shoving so that J9 can call?

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Because I'm terrible at river play

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why aren't we just shoving so that J9 can call?

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I think even a station folds enough on that river to make it wrong. I could be off, but I agree with might get more from a busted FD by checking then we get from a one-pair hand.

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why aren't we just shoving so that J9 can call?

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I think even a station folds enough on that river to make it wrong. I could be off, but I agree with might get more from a busted FD by checking then we get from a one-pair hand.

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stations don't bluff 963T7 boards

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I like a shove here also, a station will talk him into calling by telling himself "he can't have an 8 so why is he betting?"