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istewart 11-18-2007 09:50 PM

Villain\'s river play any good?
 
Villain is a FTP regular. I'll give his name if anyone cares. He's likely a winner but too aggressive in dumb spots.

He checkraises ace-high flops pretty liberally in general.

Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

Results:
<font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero shows Kc, Ac (two pair, Aces and Tens).
Button doesn't show.
BB shows Qs, 9c (a pair of Tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.75 BB.
($3.00 Rake)
</font>

Obviously it doesn't look great, but I thought I was smoked on the river by either diamonds with a ten or complete air (on the flop) with a ten. Is his play any good? (Not vs. my specific hand, but vs. my range.)

NinaWilliams 11-18-2007 09:56 PM

Re: Villain\'s river play any good?
 
His river play is horrific. Your play looks like an A from start to finish and no one ever folds top pair. His turn play is lol too.

istewart 11-18-2007 09:59 PM

Re: Villain\'s river play any good?
 
Only an A? What about 99+? The thing is there's not much of a difference between 99 and AK when he checkraises the river, but most people don't understand that and will be much more prone to fold KK than AK.

V4P 11-18-2007 10:01 PM

Re: Villain\'s river play any good?
 
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His river play is horrific. Your play looks like an A from start to finish and no one ever folds top pair. His turn play is lol too.

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My thoughts exactly...

So who was villian?

Oink 11-18-2007 10:02 PM

Re: Villain\'s river play any good?
 
what is he repping?

I can see T8 maybe making sense.

Any Hero with half a brain will call bs and throw in a wtf call with any pair here

V4P 11-18-2007 10:03 PM

Re: Villain\'s river play any good?
 
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Only an A? What about 99+? The thing is there's not much of a difference between 99 and AK when he checkraises the river, but most people don't understand that and will be much more prone to fold KK than AK.

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Given the action, I don't think I've ever seen anyone bet/fold this river.

istewart 11-18-2007 10:03 PM

Re: Villain\'s river play any good?
 
Ya Oink that's the problem, he's only repping some crap he backdoored into. Maybe I'm just retarded.

Villain is Shuxer, V4P.

MacGuyV 11-18-2007 10:04 PM

Re: Villain\'s river play any good?
 
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His river play is horrific. Your play looks like an A from start to finish and no one ever folds top pair. His turn play is lol too.

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Yeah I don't understand how a T is remotely believable.

V4P 11-18-2007 10:09 PM

Re: Villain\'s river play any good?
 
Yea, he can be pretty spazzy, especially against fellow TAGs. I'd never fold this river vs him

bobhalford 11-18-2007 10:17 PM

Re: Villain\'s river play any good?
 
I think villain's play here is to check/fold the flop. Certainly for hero calling the river is a no-brainer.


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