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Zeldark 11-10-2007 10:38 PM

Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 
Villain is 63.3/0.0/0.61, 30 Hands

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (2.20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (4.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 thinks (or at least delays) a whie and raises</font>, <font color="green">Hero ?? </font>

milesdyson 11-10-2007 10:44 PM

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 
you should make checking this flop your standard play. so many more hands put bets in when checked to than facing a bet. honestly, check calling all three streets is better than betting the flop. the river is a fold.

Zeldark 11-10-2007 10:51 PM

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 
I assume you c/c all 3 streets w/ your plan?

milesdyson 11-11-2007 12:51 AM

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 
no i often c/r the flop or c/c twice and donk the river. even c/c c/r. mainly you just need to give him the chance to bluff the flop.

Zeldark 11-11-2007 01:03 AM

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 
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no i often c/r the flop or c/c twice and donk the river. even c/c c/r. mainly you just need to give him the chance to bluff the flop.

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With your plays, what is your option when he raises the river (granted that he likely wouldn't have the same hand in both situations.)

tyler_cracker 11-11-2007 01:10 AM

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 
miles,

you make an interesting point, but i think even the small sample for this read:

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Villain is 63.3/0.0/0.61, 30 Hands

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means that value betting TP is going to make more money than checking and hoping he does something stupid.


link,

i crying call the river but folding is better.

arborman 11-11-2007 01:10 AM

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 
I call, sadly, then take notes if he's the kind of player who hangs in there for a lone overcard, or the kind who tries to bluff the occasional river.

neurotiq 11-11-2007 05:20 AM

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 
I'd probably fold, but not feel too happy about having to do so...

robrobdoe 11-11-2007 07:04 AM

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 
I call. I've seen a number of players who call to the river, don't hit anything, but then raise (presumably because they think it's the only way they can win). Without a better read, I think calling is correct.

Sushiglutton 11-11-2007 07:56 AM

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 
I fold


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