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pete fabrizio 05-14-2007 07:56 PM

live 2-4: show my ace?
 
$10 straddle on the button. one limper, I make it $45 in cutoff+1 with A9s. cutoff calls. sb is a tight/weak player who labors forever and i think mutters something about being "dominated" and then calls. bb folds, button straddler calls, limper folds.

Flop A84r, checked around. Turn T, putting out two diamonds. SB thinks for like 15 seconds and checks. I bet $125, cutoff and button fold. SB tanks and can't seem to make up his mind. He has about $200 behind. I show him my ace, and he folds.

gooseisloose08 05-14-2007 08:17 PM

Re: live 2-4: show my ace?
 
why are you even playing

AAismyfriend 05-14-2007 08:19 PM

Re: live 2-4: show my ace?
 
lol

Big_Jim 05-14-2007 08:21 PM

Re: live 2-4: show my ace?
 
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I can't see how showing a card here can possibly help you in any way.

NT! 05-14-2007 09:02 PM

Re: live 2-4: show my ace?
 
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show my ace?

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I can't see how showing a card here can possibly help you in any way.

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agree... what are you hoping, that he folds exactly AJ?

pete fabrizio 05-14-2007 09:37 PM

Re: live 2-4: show my ace?
 
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I can't see how showing a card here can possibly help you in any way.

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agree... what are you hoping, that he folds exactly AJ?

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That was the idea. Maybe AQ. Very scared player.

Game_On 05-14-2007 09:39 PM

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I can't see how showing a card here can possibly help you in any way.

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agree... what are you hoping, that he folds exactly AJ?

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That was the idea. Maybe AQ. Very scared player.

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never show anything ....only show when hand is over and even then only sometimes.

pete fabrizio 05-14-2007 09:45 PM

Re: live 2-4: show my ace?
 
I regretted it afterwards, since he folded pretty fast. I really thought he was thinking about whether to call w/ AJ, so the idea of showing the ace just kind of hit me in the moment. Remember a lot of live players think of bets in absolute terms instead of relative ones, so my raise to $45 PF (even though the pot was killed), and $125 bet on the turn (even though pot was big) would seem very strong to this guy. I would like it better if I had A2, I guess.

RiverHebrew2 05-14-2007 09:53 PM

Re: live 2-4: show my ace?
 
y the hell would u show him ur ace? uh... do u like losing value?

pete fabrizio 05-14-2007 09:55 PM

Re: live 2-4: show my ace?
 
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show my ace?

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I can't see how showing a card here can possibly help you in any way.

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agree... what are you hoping, that he folds exactly AJ?

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That was the idea. Maybe AQ. Very scared player.

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never show anything ....only show when hand is over and even then only sometimes.

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This I definitely disagree with. There are lots of situations where strategically showing a card can help you bluff someone out of a pot, or (less often) can help you get paid off. Take a board of A 3 5 J 7 where you check-raise with air. Say the person is contemplating calling with what is obviously two small pair and mutters something about whether you hit aces up and how you didn't play the hand like you had an ace, etc. Often by turning up a 6 or a 4, you can get the guy to put you on a straight and fold. Conversely, if the person is openly worrying about you having a straight that you have, I've often found that showing one of the straight cards will get the person to call, assuming that you wouldn't possibly show that unless you wanted them to fold. Etc. etc. Sure they are stupid live game tricks that probably don't work against top players, but they can definitely work from the low stakes up through at least 10-20.


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