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PBJaxx 05-14-2007 12:51 AM

5/10 - QQ vs Unknown
 
This is villain's first hand at the table.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($1262.80)
BB :COMPLETE UNKNOWN ($1000)
UTG ($1177.40)
Hero ($1232)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333"> COMPLETE UNKNOWN raises to $110</font>, Hero calls $75.

Flop: ($225) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
COMPLETE UNKNOWN checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($225) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">COMPLETE UNKNOWN bets $170</font>, Hero calls $170.

River: ($565) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">COMPLETE UNKNOWN bets $475</font>, Hero ?

If you bet the flop, do you call a shove?

Jay G 05-14-2007 01:48 AM

Re: 5/10 - QQ vs Unknown
 
I def would not have checked flop.. I would have bet and bet hard.

Not sure about a shove, but I would throw/call a strong bet

PBJaxx 05-14-2007 02:02 PM

Re: 5/10 - QQ vs Unknown
 
bump for day crowd

raptor517 05-14-2007 02:17 PM

Re: 5/10 - QQ vs Unknown
 
SNAP call. ur good her a ton. or he has the nuts.

soah 05-14-2007 02:38 PM

Re: 5/10 - QQ vs Unknown
 
[ QUOTE ]
SNAP call. ur good her a ton. or he has the nuts.

[/ QUOTE ]

PBJaxx 05-14-2007 03:16 PM

Re: 5/10 - QQ vs Unknown
 
[ QUOTE ]
SNAP call. ur good her a ton. or he has the nuts.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is villain ever value-betting a worse hand? If not, is he really bluffing the ~32% of the time I need to be good here?

Anyone have any other comment on flop play?

Thanks for the responses!

Riverrun 05-14-2007 04:22 PM

Re: 5/10 - QQ vs Unknown
 
one thing that's sorta interesting here is that it's his first hand and some people sit down with the itchy finger. i find it hard to believe he'd check the flop with the flush draw, esp. AKs, or with AA/KK. Maybe he checks JJ looking the crai, tho that seems sorta dumb.

so i'm thinking a big part of range here is quads, TT, or AhKx, so yeah, i think you've got your 32%. Plus the J on the river pairing the board, combined with your weak-looking slow play, make the river seem good to fire at when he misses his flush.

I don't hate checking the flop here since TT or AK may bet blank turn after you check behind flop, but you're gonna be pissed if an A or K comes off.


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