A legitimately sick bottomset spot? (NL50)
 

The minraise behind me followed by a coldcall from the guy that limp/called preflop does not look good to me at all. There are no flush draws and while overpairs are possible I think its unlike that I'm up against 2 overpairs and 55 and 77 still have 10 and 6 clean outs respectively. Both players appear taggy in the two orbits I've been at the table. Haven't seen either of them have a pot go past the flop. Never played with either player before this session. What do you guys think the best line here is?

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UTG+1 ($149.20)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($50)</font>
MP2 ($67.20)
<font color="#C00000">MP3 ($54.80)</font>
CO ($29.20)
Button ($35.95)
SB ($9.50)
BB ($50)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($61)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($8.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $11</font>, UTG calls $11, Hero does not like this spot at all. Obviously fold is not an option at this point so its shove or call and then either call or fold to a turn shove or shove myself.

Re: A legitimately sick bottomset spot? (NL50)
 

Why is folding no option after your rational reasoning about this hand? I'd rather say that you should fold or shove right here and honestly this is one of the very very very few spots in which I wouldn't call someone a complete freak for letting it go. Calling here makes no sense IMO because there is simply only one card you want to see, even another 6 or 4 are not completely safe for you, especially keeping in mind your reads.

Re: A legitimately sick bottomset spot? (NL50)
 

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Why is folding no option after your rational reasoning about this hand? I'd rather say that you should fold or shove right here and honestly this is one of the very very very few spots in which I wouldn't call someone a complete freak for letting it go. Calling here makes no sense IMO because there is simply only one card you want to see, even another 6 or 4 are not completely safe for you, especially keeping in mind your reads.

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Fold isn't an option because I'd feel really sick if they checked it down and I folded the best hand for $5.5 more or spiked a 3 and they gave action. I guess its more tilt prevention than anything else.

Re: A legitimately sick bottomset spot? (NL50)
 

Understand your reasoning but if they check down THAT hand I owe you some drinks, seriously!

Re: A legitimately sick bottomset spot? (NL50)
 

azrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr in

Re: A legitimately sick bottomset spot? (NL50)
 

push, you have a set, ldo.

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push, you have a set, ldo.

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Wow, chargers! Strange to see you write that... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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push, you have a set, ldo.

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yea, thanks guys. I can read the board. I also do hate these threads, but usually the action is not this sick (pre and postflop) and I have bottomset AND I WAS THE PREFLOP RAISER. This changes things. If someone else had raised preflop then its the easiest allin ever like 95% of the set hands posted since they have an overpair most of the time. FWIW, I don't think my hand is more than 5% equity difference from AA in this spot and I think most of you would get away from that here.

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push, you have a set, ldo.

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Wow, chargers! Strange to see you write that... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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yeah, but hes right though. You have a strong hand, calling isnt an option, and if you run into set over set then thems the breaks (especially when nobody is particuarly deep and villains hands arent real defined).

Get it in.

Re: A legitimately sick bottomset spot? (NL50)
 

So me raising preflop is the same as me calling a raise?