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James Boston 11-28-2007 01:33 PM

Man kills 2 People While 911 Is Telling Him Not To
 
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This is crazy. A Texas man shot and killed two men who were breaking into his neighbor's home - while a 911 dispatcher was on the phone telling him to stay in his house. According to changes in Texas law, he might not be convicted of murder. I'm fully in favor gun ownership and the right to defend yourself, but this seems excessive.

If this guy walks, is the grand jury crazy?

Here's the full 911 call: Link

istewart 11-28-2007 01:43 PM

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Wow, sick. Down with black people ldo.

istewart 11-28-2007 01:43 PM

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Where are all the civic leaders protesting Sean Taylor's death. They haven't caught the murder yet. Hmm I wonder why there isn't any outcry? Could it be that when caught he will be a brother?

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lol youtube

ElSapo 11-28-2007 01:48 PM

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Having listened to it, I'm pretty conflicted over this.

Obviously, he should have just stayed in his house. Whatever they were stealing was not worth the risk, in my opinion.

On the other hand, I don't get the sense from the tape that he went outside intent on killing someone. But the problem is that he's probably untrained, and you can hear the stress in his voice. While he probably didn't intend to commit murder, once he made the decision to go outside I'd say there was a high chance of him shooting someone.

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this guy walks, is the grand jury crazy?

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Not if they believe the men came into his yard.

ike 11-28-2007 01:50 PM

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I'm fully in favor gun ownership and the right to defend yourself, but this seems excessive.

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I'm not. If this mouth breather had to use a bat he would have stayed home. Guns make killing people too easy.

ElSapo 11-28-2007 01:54 PM

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I'll also say this - listening to this tape, it's hard not to feel some empathy for him. Here's a guy who called the cops and just didn't want to see a crime go unpunished when he felt he could and should do something.

The result is tragic, but I listen to most of this tape and part of me understands where he's coming from. So often I think people feel powerless to defend themselves, and this guy obviously didn't want to feel that.

If you can balance that, somehow, against my thinking he never should have left the house, then that's my opinion on this mess.

istewart 11-28-2007 01:56 PM

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[censored], you just [censored] with the wrong bull. You should've learned your lesson on the [censored]' basketball court. But you [censored]' monkeys never get the message. My father gave me that truck [censored]! You ever shoot at fireman? You come here and shoot at my family? I'm gonna teach you a real lesson now [censored]. Put your [censored]' mouth on the curb.

grando 11-28-2007 01:57 PM

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I'm fully in favor gun ownership and the right to defend yourself, but this seems excessive.

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I'm not. If this mouth breather had to use a bat he would have stayed home. Guns make killing people too easy.

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yep

bobman0330 11-28-2007 02:02 PM

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On the other hand, I don't get the sense from the tape that he went outside intent on killing someone.

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He actually says "I'm going to kill them."

ElSapo 11-28-2007 02:04 PM

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On the other hand, I don't get the sense from the tape that he went outside intent on killing someone.

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He actually says "I'm going to kill them."

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He also says "move and your dead" or something to that affect. But you're right, that's not going to sound good to a grand jury.


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