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SongheJe 11-24-2007 06:08 PM

How bad can a player run in sit & goes ?
 
Hello,
after strings of 1-2000 games going up in ROI, I always experience a period really hard to deal with.
Time ago I wrote a program, that I called 'luckometer' to just check difference from won chips and EV in preflop allins 1v1. I found that in the long run difference should tend to 0.
However, at a certain point , bad luck seem unstoppable.
I give an example with some numbers (from today)..
143 25$+2$ sit & go played
I was 352 times allin preflop (1v1 showdown).
I was 51.42% on edge vs my opponent's hand.
My expected value was 600,087 chips.
I extracted from pots just 483,088 chips.
Difference is 24.22% negative, 116,999 chips were lost in bad luck..
I wrote a simulator too that repeat the games flip and, playing 352 allins 200 times it never had a so negative result.
Is there anyone with a good math/statistic background that can help me to calculate what's the % I have to run so bad with a given number of flips ?

Meanwhile I will simulate a long run with the simulator to see how many times 'this may happen' in an empiric way
Thanks
SJ

JSmith2007 11-24-2007 06:09 PM

Re: How bad can a player run in sit & goes ?
 
fold preflop

Hattifnatt 11-24-2007 06:10 PM

Re: How bad can a player run in sit & goes ?
 
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calculate what's the % I have to run so bad with a given number of flips ?


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50:50, either you run that bad or you dont.

mugatu668 11-24-2007 06:16 PM

Re: How bad can a player run in sit & goes ?
 
this post is actually pretty interesting. how many SD's is he off?

hate_dr_dre 11-24-2007 06:18 PM

Re: How bad can a player run in sit & goes ?
 
to answer your question:
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...splayGraph.png

spacegravy 11-24-2007 06:19 PM

Re: How bad can a player run in sit & goes ?
 
Jesus, I have never seen a losing player complain as much as you. If your down after the 15k games you've played for the love of God, your a LOSING player. And I use to play with you all the time and you don't know what's going on.

lugnt 11-24-2007 06:20 PM

Re: How bad can a player run in sit & goes ?
 
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to answer your question:
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...splayGraph.png

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I don't think that's running bad

SongheJe 11-24-2007 06:23 PM

Re: How bad can a player run in sit & goes ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
this post is actually pretty interesting. how many SD's is he off?

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What's SD ?

SongheJe 11-24-2007 06:26 PM

Re: How bad can a player run in sit & goes ?
 
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Jesus, I have never seen a losing player complain as much as you. If your down after the 15k games you've played for the love of God, your a LOSING player. And I use to play with you all the time and you don't know what's going on.

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I think you never lost 120K chips more than expected in 300 allins. However, I'm asking a question on some NUMBERS. Really don't understand why you have to insult this way.
It's really sad. Good luck

vetiver 11-24-2007 06:29 PM

Re: How bad can a player run in sit & goes ?
 
All SNGs were played post-legislation, so that's not it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ld/wtfgraf.jpg


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