A slightly unusual stop and go
 

Unusual since I have more chips. I'm smith2940

Table '47183720 2' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: atomic_punk8 (1245 in chips)
Seat 2: smith2940 (2753 in chips)
Seat 3: LovinPoke (1275 in chips)
Seat 4: lieutenant76 (2765 in chips)
Seat 5: banchees5 (1987 in chips)
Seat 6: schneemannnx (1265 in chips)
Seat 7: surveyor x (1220 in chips)
Seat 8: lenin5 (2275 in chips)
Seat 9: olmanbrenner (630 in chips)
atomic_punk8: posts small blind 50
smith2940: posts big blind 100

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to smith2940 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

5 folds
olmanbrenner: raises 100 to 200
atomic_punk8: folds
smith2940: calls 100

*** FLOP ***
7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
smith2940: bets 2553 and is all-in

Re: A slightly unusual stop and go
 

Boy this is really odd, but I think I like it.

Stop and go rules are pretty complex, but I seem to recall that if they are likely to call preflop to a shove, but will fold post flop to the stop and go then its a reasonable alternative.

This I think is +EV... I think you get looked up by any pair bigger than yours or anything he hit with the board, but AK, AJ, A9 might fold here... possible he will fold a paired 7 or a pair of 88, which is obviously good for you....

Re: A slightly unusual stop and go
 

this is awful trying to win a 400 chip pot for 2.5k

Re: A slightly unusual stop and go
 

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this is awful trying to win a 400 chip pot for 2.5k

[/ QUOTE ] I guess I don't understand the rules. I didn't think that I would have to give him all my chips if I lost. I thought I would get to keep some.

Re: A slightly unusual stop and go
 

misread if you are going to do this why dont you just raise another 400 preflop and get his stack?

Re: A slightly unusual stop and go
 

I don't think the risk/reward is good overbetting more than twice pot. Just reraise allin preflop.

Re: A slightly unusual stop and go
 

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misread if you are going to do this why dont you just raise another 400 preflop and get his stack?

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cause hes never going to fold preflop, and say he has 88. repop and you likely lose. on this flop, would you call? look at it from his donk point of view if hes minraising with that kinda stack, he likely doesnt understand short stack play and can easily fold. lookin gat his OPR he shows a lifetime loss, but still plays a lot per day...

but i dont think this is a stop and go spot. minraise with 6 BB is likely to be a very big hand

Re: A slightly unusual stop and go
 

any hand he folds on most flops you wanted to be in anyway. Stick it in PF.

Re: A slightly unusual stop and go
 

The only hands that really disliked that flop were 88,99, JJ, AK, AJ. So you risk your entire stack (when you're really not short stacked here yet) on the basis that about half his raise range is beat ? That's not winning poker.

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The only hands that really disliked that flop were 88,99, JJ, AK, AJ. So you risk your entire stack (when you're really not short stacked here yet) on the basis that about half his raise range is beat ? That's not winning poker.

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Look at the stack sizes again. Effective stack is 630. I just shove pf, I don't think a S&G gives us any fold equity against hands that we want would actually want fold equity against.