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jtg51 10-10-2007 05:04 AM

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awesome analysis

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Yeah, great post.

jtg51 10-10-2007 05:05 AM

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So what does everyone think? Does Cashman really mean it when he says the Yankees absolutely won't sign A-Rod if he opts out, of is it just a bargaining ploy?

tolbiny 10-10-2007 09:31 AM

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So what does everyone think? Does Cashman really mean it when he says the Yankees absolutely won't sign A-Rod if he opts out, of is it just a bargaining ploy?

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Sounds real to me. If they won't pony up enough to keep him from free agency with a 20 mill subsidy from Texas why would they put up more once he opts out?

TMTTR 10-10-2007 10:02 AM

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So what does everyone think? Does Cashman really mean it when he says the Yankees absolutely won't sign A-Rod if he opts out, of is it just a bargaining ploy?

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I can't believe any team will lock A-Rod up for 10 years at 33 mil a year as Boras apparently wants.

So, assume A-Rod walks -- do the Yankees try to bring Lowell back to pinstripes? He certainly shined in his walk year for the Saux... I can see the Yankees overspending on him.

brettbrettr 10-10-2007 10:36 AM

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So, assume A-Rod walks -- do the Yankees try to bring Lowell back to pinstripes? He certainly shined in his walk year for the Saux... I can see the Yankees overspending on him.

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This is what I was saying yesterday when I said....

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Its fine if the Yankees want to trim payroll. But you don't draw lines in the sand when it comes to Arod or potentially Johan. These are guys the Yankees should overpay.

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onlinebeginner 10-10-2007 12:19 PM

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to act as if the yankees can't put together a deal for a catcher is crazy....melky plus matsui (pay for alot of his deal) for a catcher could be one example

sign aaron rowand... our defense would be much improved

Triumph36 10-10-2007 12:51 PM

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to act as if the yankees can't put together a deal for a catcher is crazy....melky plus matsui (pay for alot of his deal) for a catcher could be one example

sign aaron rowand... our defense would be much improved

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why would anyone do that?

seriously. matsui is a terrible fielder and an average DH - who wants him? and cabrera is a league average CF and below average corner outfielder.

what catcher do you want for that package? it is [censored] hard to find good catching. the yankees already have a nearly HOF caliber one - why give him up?

DesertCat 10-10-2007 01:02 PM

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to act as if the yankees can't put together a deal for a catcher is crazy....melky plus matsui (pay for alot of his deal) for a catcher could be one example


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Do you have a catcher in mind? Someone who's defensive brilliance will make up for the lost offense?

2007 Catchers OPS
Posada .970
Martinez .879
Martin .843
Mauer .808
Varitek .787
McCann .772
Johjima .755
Zaun .752
Molina .731
Rodriquez .714
Pierzinski .712

Not that Posada will repeat his performance. But he's probably a decent bet to be over .800 next year. Maybe you keep Posada and find a catcher who can hit better than Molina to let Posada take more days off? And DH Posada more.

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sign aaron rowand... our defense would be much improved

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Name Career OPS+ Range* Paycheck
Rowand 106 Subpar $4.3M
Cabrera 95 Great $0.4M

*(2007 RF9 CF)

So you think giving a 5 year $55M deal to Rowand and dumping Melky is going to improve the team? Is it because 23 year olds never improve and 30 year olds never decline?

CharlieDontSurf 10-10-2007 01:05 PM

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1. Make Mattingly the new manager. I bet posada leaves if it is a manager he doesn't like/gel with. Losing Rivera would be god awful so don't do anything stupid to offend him or piss him off. Also its a given in my view that Andy stays if Donnie is the coach.

2. See what it would take to get Santana in a deal involving Wang.

3. Trade Giambi...if you have to pay a large chunk of his salary then just do it...he's not worth the headache...the DH needs to be reserved for Damon/Matsui.

4. Trade Matsui or Damon somehow.

5. Sign Rowand to play the outfield with Abreu and Cabrera.

6. Re-sign Arod.

Shore up the bullpen.

Triumph36 10-10-2007 01:06 PM

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DesertCat:

I believe you switched those - Cabrera's range is subpar and Rowand's range is great.

Before the Yankees sign another CF, I'd like for that Damon deal to expire/come off the books. I'd also like to see if Cabrera develops any power. His trade value was much higher after last season, so dealing him this off-season seems foolish.


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